57 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-stableDesired behaviour of "ifconfig -alias"| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Kevin Way | Feb 9, 2007 9:35 pm | |
| Jeremy Chadwick | Feb 9, 2007 9:48 pm | |
| Brooks Davis | Feb 9, 2007 10:54 pm | |
| JoaoBR | Feb 10, 2007 1:00 am | |
| Kevin Way | Feb 10, 2007 2:13 am | |
| Jeremy Chadwick | Feb 10, 2007 2:47 am | |
| Ian Smith | Feb 10, 2007 5:12 am | |
| JoaoBR | Feb 10, 2007 10:16 am | |
| Michael Nottebrock | Feb 10, 2007 12:15 pm | |
| Ian Smith | Feb 10, 2007 2:19 pm | |
| Bruce M. Simpson | Feb 11, 2007 1:35 am | |
| Oliver Fromme | Feb 12, 2007 2:26 pm | |
| Brooks Davis | Feb 12, 2007 2:42 pm | |
| Jeremy Chadwick | Feb 12, 2007 3:36 pm | |
| Oliver Fromme | Feb 12, 2007 4:22 pm | |
| Brooks Davis | Feb 12, 2007 4:36 pm | |
| JoaoBR | Feb 12, 2007 5:27 pm | |
| Oliver Fromme | Feb 12, 2007 5:39 pm | |
| Brooks Davis | Feb 12, 2007 5:59 pm | |
| Oliver Fromme | Feb 12, 2007 6:09 pm | |
| Oliver Fromme | Feb 12, 2007 6:23 pm | |
| Brooks Davis | Feb 12, 2007 6:40 pm | |
| Jeremy Chadwick | Feb 12, 2007 7:16 pm | |
| Brooks Davis | Feb 12, 2007 7:27 pm | |
| John Hay | Feb 12, 2007 7:32 pm | |
| Jeremy Chadwick | Feb 12, 2007 7:34 pm | |
| Brooks Davis | Feb 12, 2007 7:43 pm | |
| Freddie Cash | Feb 12, 2007 7:47 pm | |
| JoaoBR | Feb 12, 2007 7:54 pm | |
| JoaoBR | Feb 12, 2007 9:17 pm | |
| Oliver Fromme | Feb 12, 2007 10:04 pm | |
| J. T. Farmer | Feb 12, 2007 11:14 pm | |
| Kevin Way | Feb 12, 2007 11:26 pm | |
| Joerg Pernfuss | Feb 13, 2007 2:01 am | |
| Brooks Davis | Feb 13, 2007 2:23 am | |
| Sam Leffler | Feb 13, 2007 4:00 am | |
| Freddie Cash | Feb 13, 2007 6:08 am | |
| JoaoBR | Feb 13, 2007 7:43 am | |
| Oliver Fromme | Feb 13, 2007 7:57 am | |
| JoaoBR | Feb 13, 2007 8:52 am | |
| Oliver Fromme | Feb 13, 2007 10:38 am | |
| Oliver Fromme | Feb 13, 2007 10:47 am | |
| Bruce M. Simpson | Feb 13, 2007 1:17 pm | |
| Freddie Cash | Feb 13, 2007 5:14 pm | |
| Pete French | Feb 13, 2007 5:19 pm | |
| Freddie Cash | Feb 13, 2007 5:22 pm | |
| Freddie Cash | Feb 13, 2007 5:44 pm | |
| Jeremy Chadwick | Feb 13, 2007 6:08 pm | |
| Oliver Fromme | Feb 13, 2007 6:37 pm | |
| Oliver Fromme | Feb 13, 2007 6:41 pm | |
| Freddie Cash | Feb 13, 2007 6:55 pm | |
| sth...@nethelp.no | Feb 13, 2007 7:02 pm | |
| Joan Picanyol i Puig | Feb 13, 2007 7:04 pm | |
| Patrick M. Hausen | Feb 13, 2007 7:10 pm | |
| Oliver Fromme | Feb 13, 2007 8:06 pm | |
| Oliver Fromme | Feb 13, 2007 8:36 pm | |
| Jeremy Chadwick | Feb 13, 2007 9:32 pm |
| Subject: | Desired behaviour of "ifconfig -alias" | |
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| From: | Oliver Fromme (ol...@lurza.secnetix.de) | |
| Date: | Feb 13, 2007 10:47:11 am | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-stable | |
J. T. Farmer wrote:
Oliver Fromme wrote:
But when removing something without specifying which one, it makes some sense to simply remove the first existing address on that interface. It would even be OK with me to remove the last one, or an arbitrary one -- I use that shortcut mostely when I need to remove the only address from an interface (or all existing addresses), so it doesn't matter.
Doing apparently random and arbitrary things is bad, regardless.
I agree that it's bad if it's not well documented, which is the case here, unfortunately.
re-cast the argument, suppose you found out that your employer had a command in the company accounting system called "VacationConfig -transfer" that would transfer random days from your vacation pot to some arbitrary receiver. ..
Well, if it was documented ... But it would probably violate my work contract, so he'd better not use the command. ;-)
It is very clear that ifconfig does not behave in the manner that the man pages claim.
It's true that the manpage is very unclear and needs to be improved.
It's also true that the command line parser of ifconfig is a rather complex beast that has grown in nasty ways over the years.
Maybe now would be the right time to completely redesign the ifconfig tool. Only in -current, of course, with very big HEADS-UP warning in the lists and in UPDATING. But I fear that there are no devloper resources to do that right, so any change will end up as just another patch work that won't really clean things up, but instead make it worse. :-/
that way in -current. Then MFC it back to -stable...
I don't think that any significant changes in the behaviour of such an important tool will be MFC'ed to a stable branch.
Best regards Oliver
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