atom feed23 messages in com.freebase.freebase-discussRe: [Freebase-discuss] countries, adm...
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glenn mcdonaldJul 19, 2010 4:30 pm 
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Tom MorrisJul 19, 2010 9:52 pm 
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Kirrily RobertJul 20, 2010 12:44 am 
Tom MorrisJul 20, 2010 12:51 am 
glenn mcdonaldJul 20, 2010 4:53 am 
Tom MorrisJul 20, 2010 5:34 am 
Philip KendallJul 20, 2010 5:37 am 
Christopher R. MadenJul 20, 2010 5:37 am 
Iain SproatJul 20, 2010 5:57 am 
glenn mcdonaldJul 20, 2010 6:53 am 
Philip KendallJul 20, 2010 7:01 am 
Paul HouleJul 20, 2010 7:34 am 
glenn mcdonaldJul 20, 2010 7:56 am 
Luke SchubertJul 20, 2010 7:58 am 
Shailesh KochharJul 21, 2010 12:08 am 
Paul HouleJul 21, 2010 8:03 am 
Tom MorrisJul 21, 2010 8:26 am 
evening0starJul 21, 2010 9:07 am 
Thad GuidryJul 21, 2010 10:15 am 
evening0starJul 21, 2010 10:30 am 
Subject:Re: [Freebase-discuss] countries, administrative divisions...
From:evening0star (even@gmail.com)
Date:Jul 21, 2010 9:07:22 am
List:com.freebase.freebase-discuss

I remember when I was working on a country list for my old employer and realizing there is no one list of countries. As Tom noted, there's an ISO list, and as someone else noted, a UN list. You can also throw in postal standards for probably a third view.

Thinking out loud, without reference, what if we had a country category that captured something like: Historical, Current, Disputed. Historical meaning it was once a county but no longer is (I'd probably include empires of the old days, like Roman Empire). Current would be anything that is ISO and UN. And Disputed could cover what is on one list but isn't on another, or are disputed areas (like Kosovo).

This could help when we know something was a country but no longer isn't, and we don't know the end date. And it could allow folks to add in Disputed if they want.

Again, just thinking out loud/brainstorming. I think it would be helpful to write out our requirements so we can state them all together so we can have a new starting point. Otherwise we may go back and forth forever.

here's my lame attempt: - what was a country/nation/administrative area - what's agreed upon as being a current country - what isn't agreed upon as being a current country - when something was no longer a country - ???

evening

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Tom Morris <tfmo@gmail.com> wrote:

Returning to a pragmatic what's-possible-today point of view, another possible qualifier on queries is the ISO country code.

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 7:30 PM, glenn mcdonald <gmcd@itasoftware.com> wrote:

[{ "id": null, "name": null, "type": "/location/country", "/location/administrative_division/country": {"*":null,"optional":"forbidden"},

"/location/dated_location/date_dissolved":{"*":null,"optional":"forbidden"},

"form_of_government":{"name":"Government in exile","optional":"forbidden"}, "limit":300, "sort":"name" }]

There are 214 topics that pass Glenn's screen above, 232 topics with the iso_alpha_3 property filled in, and 192 topics which match both criteria.