21 messages in org.oasis-open.lists.wsbpelRE: [wsbpel] Q: guidelines for reliab...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| LI Yanming / FTR&D / US | Sep 9, 2003 10:29 am | |
| Ron Ten-Hove | Sep 9, 2003 10:54 am | |
| Martin Chapman | Sep 9, 2003 11:22 am | |
| Ugo Corda | Sep 9, 2003 11:23 am | |
| David RR Webber - XML ebusiness | Sep 9, 2003 11:24 am | |
| Ron Ten-Hove | Sep 9, 2003 11:43 am | |
| Ugo Corda | Sep 9, 2003 11:54 am | |
| Ron Ten-Hove | Sep 9, 2003 12:13 pm | |
| Ron Ten-Hove | Sep 9, 2003 12:16 pm | |
| David RR Webber - XML ebusiness | Sep 9, 2003 1:34 pm | |
| Ron Ten-Hove | Sep 9, 2003 3:51 pm | |
| David RR Webber - XML ebusiness | Sep 9, 2003 4:23 pm | |
| Eckenfels. Bernd | Sep 10, 2003 6:49 am | |
| Ugo Corda | Sep 10, 2003 7:58 am | |
| Martin Chapman | Sep 10, 2003 11:19 am | |
| David RR Webber - XML ebusiness | Sep 10, 2003 12:03 pm | |
| Ron Ten-Hove | Sep 10, 2003 12:31 pm | |
| Eckenfels. Bernd | Sep 10, 2003 12:43 pm | |
| David RR Webber - XML ebusiness | Sep 10, 2003 7:45 pm | |
| Ron Ten-Hove | Sep 12, 2003 7:49 am | |
| David RR Webber - XML ebusiness | Sep 12, 2003 9:17 am |
| Subject: | RE: [wsbpel] Q: guidelines for reliability? | |
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| From: | Martin Chapman (mart...@oracle.com) | |
| Date: | Sep 9, 2003 11:22:53 am | |
| List: | org.oasis-open.lists.wsbpel | |
Title: Message
Couple of points on this.
1. Neither Reliability specs are standards at the moment. One is proprietary technology and the other (WS-Reliability) is going through the standards process in a sister OASIS group (WS-RM TC).
2. While I agree the actual mechanism should not be baked into a spec, unless the chosen approach is communicated somehow there will be zero chance of interoperability. It seems that some QOS info should be conveyed, but whether this is in a BPEL document or in an underlying WSDL document is not clear.
Martin.
-----Original Message----- From: Ron Ten-Hove [mailto:Rona...@Sun.COM] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 11:16 AM To: LI Yanming / FTR&D / US Cc: 'wsb...@lists.oasis-open.org' Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Q: guidelines for reliability?
I believe the issue is out of scope for BPEL4WS, which is based on an abstract (WSDL-based) messaging model. There is an assumption that some sort of reliable messaging is in use, but that is a deployment issue, not a BPEL issue.
Cheers, -Ron
LI Yanming / FTR&D / US wrote:
Dear Friends,
As we can see no hope for convergence between the two WS reliable messaging standards, one from MS,IBM and BEA, and the other one from OASIS supported by Sun, Oracle and others, I believe there will be a need to create a common context in BPEL in order to use different mechanisms for reliable messaging. Any comment?
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