atom feed51 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-newbiesRe: Newbie tip
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Darren WiebeMay 11, 1999 9:50 am 
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Subject:Re: Newbie tip
From:Laurence Berland (stuy@confusion.net)
Date:May 17, 1999 7:42:40 pm
List:org.freebsd.freebsd-newbies

Perhaps not an elegant way to do things, but... If you set a bios powerup password, then tell everyone that, they can just hit ctrl-alt-delete, which will do a shutdown -r even if you're not root, then have them turn it off when the bios password prompt comes up.

Adam Szilveszter wrote:

Hi!

On Mon, 17 May 1999, Jukka Simila wrote:

On 17-May-99 Adam Szilveszter wrote:

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You don't even have to move the mouse, take two identical mouses and boot with another mouse installed, then switch it to the another, you have to reboot before win95 detects the new mouse. :-)))))) Especially PS/2 mice behave that way...

But: If you have a computer that can't be power-on for 24h / day, say, a computer used mainly for text-editing (that old 486 :), wouldn't it be nicer to give users a possibility to shut it down with their own password, rather than delivering root's password to everyone, or recommending microsoft-style shutdown "just switch the power off, it's all right then" :)

Hmmmm. That's a different matter then. My computer is turned off every day as well because my roommate cannot stand if it is running at night. But I'm there so I always can turn it off. I have not thought the matter over, obviously. from this perspective, your solution very much makes sense. What I said is that one should be very careful in configuring packages to be sudo but that said there are circumstances when it is necessary. The M$ style shutdown idea is coooool, although some actually practice it in our dorm as well and don't even know that it is bad...

"You cannot shut down the computer yourself, but just ask me and I will be there in a minute. Oh, I forgot, I won't be home until tomorrow.. Would you like to become a sysadmin?" :)

:-)))))) That's the result when I speak w/o thinking... yep. Obviously a bug or config error inside my head. Has happened before as well. A fix, anyone?:-)))))

That aside, I was only considering single-user environments and LANs where normal users cannot access the console anyway. That's because I was drawing on my prevoius experience here at the dorm where only these environments seem to occur:-) At home my family still uses Winsssssuxxx so it is not a problem. Maybe I will bring in some change this summer...but my machine was more urgent because it actually has Net access so I can utilize FreeBSD's full potential.

Regards: Szilveszter

Szeged University Hungary

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