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Subject:Re: PIs considered harmful Was: XML-SW, a thought experiment
From:Simon St.Laurent (simo@simonstl.com)
Date:Feb 12, 2002 3:46:19 pm
List:org.w3.www-tag

On Tue, 2002-02-12 at 17:33, Dan Connolly wrote:

What "institutional animus"? Don't lump us all in one pile. How many "imo"s does TimBL need to use before you'll let him speak for himself?

TimBL didn't need to say anything for me to believe there was an institutional animus at the W3C against processing instructions.

I've been told a number of times that this was the 'final W3C word' on processing instructions, though phrased rather politely:

--------------- http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-stylesheet/

The use of XML processing instructions in this specification should not be taken as a precedent. The W3C does not anticipate recommending the use of processing instructions in any future specification. The Rationale explains why they were used in this specification. ---------------

Along with the excuse for using them IN THIS CASE: ---------------- http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-stylesheet/#rationale

There was an urgent requirement for a specification for style sheet linking that could be completed in time for the next release from major browser vendors. Only by choosing a simple mechanism closely based on a proven existing mechanism could the specification be completed in time to meet this requirement.

Use of a processing instruction avoids polluting the main document structure with application specific processing information.

The mechanism chosen for this version of the specification is not a constraint on the additional mechanisms planned for future versions. There is no expectation that these will use processing instructions; indeed they may not include the linking information in the source document. -----------------

The animus has also been noted quite regularly on xml-dev.