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| Dennis E. Hamilton | Jan 19, 2009 8:44 am | |
| robe...@us.ibm.com | Jan 19, 2009 9:16 am | |
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| Dennis E. Hamilton | Jan 19, 2009 10:10 am | |
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| Dennis E. Hamilton | Jan 19, 2009 10:44 am | |
| Patrick Durusau | Jan 19, 2009 10:57 am | |
| robe...@us.ibm.com | Jan 19, 2009 11:09 am | |
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| Dennis E. Hamilton | Jan 20, 2009 8:42 am | |
| David Faure | Jan 20, 2009 10:02 am | |
| Duane Nickull | Jan 20, 2009 10:30 am | |
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| David Faure | Jan 20, 2009 11:59 am | |
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| David Faure | Jan 20, 2009 5:04 pm | |
| Dennis E. Hamilton | Jan 20, 2009 9:39 pm | |
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| Duane Nickull | Jan 21, 2009 9:26 am | |
| Dennis E. Hamilton | Jan 21, 2009 11:04 am | |
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| Dennis E. Hamilton | Feb 4, 2009 12:06 pm |
| Subject: | Re: [office] ODF 1.2 Single-Level Conformance and Law of Unintended Consequences | |
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| From: | David Faure (fau...@kde.org) | |
| Date: | Jan 19, 2009 11:10:00 am | |
| List: | org.oasis-open.lists.office | |
On Monday 19 January 2009, robe...@us.ibm.com wrote:
Since current implementations do not (to my knowledge) introduce foreign attributes and elements into documents, they would not be impacted by this change.
By foreign, do you mean attributes and elements not defined by ODF? Then I beg to differ, there are plenty of these, see below.
Arbitrary extensions are outside of any basis for interoperability, so I'd argue they should be outside of conformance.
Obviously.
The point is that the ODF 1.2 metadata was designed to remove the need for foreign elements and attributes. That original extensibility feature was not intended for extending the processing model of ODF, though in theory it could be (mis)used for that purpose. But in practice, the mechanism has not been used at all.
I am very surprised by this; either I'm misunderstanding what this is about, or the use of extensions isn't known enough by this TC.
Let me point out some examples:
* KWord can save a table style that points to a frame+paragraph style, it does
that by using the
koffice:frame-style-name and koffice:paragraph-style-name properties in the
style. This doesn't
create a huge interop problem since existing documents are rendered fine by
other implementations,
those properties are only used when creating new tables.
* KWord can define the behavior of a frame when a new page is created (for
DTP-like usage
where you might want a similar frame to be created on the next page at the exact
same position;
another one use case is a company logo in a page corner for instance).
This is done with koffice:frame-behavior-on-new-page in the frame style; and
here again it
only affects further editing, not rendering of a given document.
* OpenOffice has similar things, using the
xmlns:ooo="http://openoffice.org/2004/office" namespace for instance.
or xmlns:ooow="http://openoffice.org/2004/writer" or
xmlns:oooc="http://openoffice.org/2004/calc".
Is this what "foreign elements and attributes" was about?
-- David Faure, fau...@kde.org, sponsored by Qt Software @ Nokia to work on KDE, Konqueror (http://www.konqueror.org), and KOffice (http://www.koffice.org).
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