atom feed56 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-stableRE: tail
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Chris ByrnesApr 29, 2001 9:24 pm 
Juha SaarinenApr 29, 2001 9:29 pm 
David W.Chapman Jr.Apr 29, 2001 9:31 pm 
Christopher SchulteApr 29, 2001 9:32 pm 
Mike TancsaApr 29, 2001 9:33 pm 
Dan LangilleApr 29, 2001 9:34 pm 
Juha SaarinenApr 29, 2001 10:04 pm 
Chris ByrnesApr 29, 2001 10:07 pm 
Juha SaarinenApr 29, 2001 10:08 pm 
Kris KennawayApr 29, 2001 10:12 pm 
David W.Chapman Jr.Apr 29, 2001 10:15 pm 
Mike MeyerApr 29, 2001 10:15 pm 
Ted FaberApr 29, 2001 10:21 pm 
Juha SaarinenApr 29, 2001 10:55 pm 
Juha SaarinenApr 29, 2001 10:55 pm 
Juha SaarinenApr 29, 2001 10:58 pm 
David W. Chapman Jr.Apr 29, 2001 11:04 pm 
Steve O'Hara-SmithApr 29, 2001 11:20 pm 
Mike MeyerApr 29, 2001 11:30 pm 
Juha SaarinenApr 29, 2001 11:53 pm 
Juha SaarinenApr 29, 2001 11:53 pm 
Mike MeyerApr 29, 2001 11:58 pm 
Jordan HubbardApr 30, 2001 12:00 am 
Juha SaarinenApr 30, 2001 12:11 am 
Jordan HubbardApr 30, 2001 12:18 am 
Mike MeyerApr 30, 2001 12:23 am 
Andre GoereeApr 30, 2001 12:33 am 
Valentin NechayevApr 30, 2001 1:03 am 
Valentin NechayevApr 30, 2001 1:18 am 
Raymond WikerApr 30, 2001 1:54 am 
David MaloneApr 30, 2001 2:13 am 
Kal TorakApr 30, 2001 2:24 am 
Panagiotis AstithasApr 30, 2001 2:33 am 
Oliver FrommeApr 30, 2001 5:03 am 
Donn MillerApr 30, 2001 6:23 am 
Rodney W. GrimesApr 30, 2001 8:43 am 
Ted FaberApr 30, 2001 9:00 am 
Chris ByrnesApr 30, 2001 9:08 am 
Arthur W. Neilson IIIApr 30, 2001 11:41 am 
Donn MillerApr 30, 2001 11:53 am 
Sue BlakeApr 30, 2001 12:35 pm 
Juha SaarinenApr 30, 2001 12:43 pm 
Lyndon NerenbergApr 30, 2001 12:48 pm 
Lyndon NerenbergApr 30, 2001 12:53 pm 
Dan LangilleApr 30, 2001 1:01 pm 
Fred GilhamApr 30, 2001 1:39 pm 
Juha SaarinenApr 30, 2001 2:02 pm 
Chad R. LarsonApr 30, 2001 6:27 pm 
Steve O'Hara-SmithApr 30, 2001 10:29 pm 
Jano LukacApr 30, 2001 10:37 pm 
Jordan HubbardMay 1, 2001 12:16 am 
Doug RussellMay 1, 2001 2:22 am 
Doug RussellMay 1, 2001 4:28 am 
Matthew HuntMay 1, 2001 9:36 am 
Christian ChenMay 2, 2001 12:33 am 
Oliver FrommeMay 2, 2001 2:55 am 
Subject:RE: tail
From:Doug Russell (drus@saturn-tech.com)
Date:May 1, 2001 4:28:18 am
List:org.freebsd.freebsd-stable

On Tue, 1 May 2001, Juha Saarinen wrote:

Note the "rare situations" -- it's not useful when you make a typo, or a mistake.

:: Remember, a directory is treated as a :: regular file on unix filesystems.

Not sure about this; if you e.g. vi a directory, it will warn you that it isn't a "regular file".

Only because vi specifically recognises that case.

:: I see no reason to correct tail's :: behavior. If you sit there and do `tail' on a directory all day long, :: then you've got problems. Surely, you might want to modifiy cat's :: behavior, because some poor unsuspecting user might get some ugly :: garbage printed to his terminal when he does 'cat' on a disk device.

So the best thing to do is to keep the current behaviour for tail et al, but make it accessible through a flag. Most of the time, that behaviour isn't desirable, hence it should only be invoked if you really need it.

No, the behavior should stay the same by default, with a flag that can be used to turn on "sanity checking". You would have to change FAR, FAR too many things to make the whole system dafault to "typo proof" behavior.

Like I said in my previous message, having some sort of add-on that you could use to MAKE the system more user-friendly, etc would be a very worthwhile (although rather large) project, and 'A Good Thing'. Changing the default behavior of the entire system to be more like Windows is NOT.

Later...... <Doug>

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