48 messages in net.launchpad.lists.openstackRe: [Openstack] best practices for me...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Andrew Bogott | Jul 2, 2012 12:16 pm | |
| Russell Bryant | Jul 2, 2012 12:26 pm | |
| Joshua Harlow | Jul 2, 2012 2:41 pm | |
| Joshua Harlow | Jul 2, 2012 2:54 pm | |
| Gabriel Hurley | Jul 2, 2012 3:18 pm | |
| John Postlethwait | Jul 2, 2012 4:42 pm | |
| Christopher B Ferris | Jul 2, 2012 5:41 pm | |
| Thierry Carrez | Jul 3, 2012 2:31 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Jul 3, 2012 2:34 am | |
| Doug Hellmann | Jul 3, 2012 5:37 am | |
| James E. Blair | Jul 3, 2012 6:55 am | |
| Joshua Harlow | Jul 3, 2012 10:46 am | |
| Dan Prince | Jul 3, 2012 10:59 am | |
| Gabriel Hurley | Jul 3, 2012 11:59 am | |
| Andrew Bogott | Jul 3, 2012 12:47 pm | |
| Joshua Harlow | Jul 3, 2012 2:09 pm | |
| James E. Blair | Jul 3, 2012 2:54 pm | |
| Eric Windisch | Jul 3, 2012 3:47 pm | |
| Andrew Bogott | Jul 3, 2012 3:54 pm | |
| Gabriel Hurley | Jul 3, 2012 4:53 pm | |
| Timothy Daly | Jul 3, 2012 5:27 pm | |
| Monty Taylor | Jul 3, 2012 6:17 pm | |
| Thierry Carrez | Jul 4, 2012 2:56 am | |
| Gabriel Hurley | Jul 4, 2012 3:17 pm | |
| Eric Windisch | Jul 4, 2012 4:11 pm | |
| Christopher B Ferris | Jul 5, 2012 4:29 am | |
| Sean Dague | Jul 5, 2012 6:55 am | |
| Doug Hellmann | Jul 5, 2012 7:16 am | |
| Joshua Harlow | Jul 5, 2012 10:21 am | |
| Mark McLoughlin | Jul 18, 2012 2:01 am | |
| Mark McLoughlin | Jul 18, 2012 2:13 am | |
| Mark McLoughlin | Jul 18, 2012 2:16 am | |
| Mark McLoughlin | Jul 18, 2012 2:23 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Jul 18, 2012 4:00 pm | |
| Doug Hellmann | Jul 23, 2012 8:50 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Jul 23, 2012 8:59 am | |
| Doug Hellmann | Jul 23, 2012 9:04 am | |
| Eric Windisch | Aug 2, 2012 1:05 pm | |
| Christopher B Ferris | Aug 2, 2012 2:08 pm | |
| Vishvananda Ishaya | Aug 2, 2012 3:47 pm | |
| Jay Pipes | Aug 2, 2012 5:18 pm | |
| Zhongyue Luo | Aug 2, 2012 5:24 pm | |
| Eric Windisch | Aug 2, 2012 5:51 pm | |
| Mark McLoughlin | Aug 2, 2012 10:26 pm | |
| Thierry Carrez | Aug 3, 2012 2:49 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Aug 3, 2012 4:02 am | |
| Jay Pipes | Aug 3, 2012 9:25 am | |
| Eric Windisch | Aug 3, 2012 9:34 am |
| Subject: | Re: [Openstack] best practices for merging common into specific projects | |
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| From: | Joshua Harlow (harl...@yahoo-inc.com) | |
| Date: | Jul 5, 2012 10:21:13 am | |
| List: | net.launchpad.lists.openstack | |
Ya, let me know, I'll jump in and see what I can do also...
On 7/4/12 3:18 PM, "Gabriel Hurley" <Gabr...@nebula.com> wrote:
Having a team/leader in that arena would definitely help. I'd contribute to
common more if I knew what needed contributing, who to talk to about it, etc...
Same goes for helping in terms of packaging, etc. to make it a proper common
library.
- Gabriel
-----Original Message----- From: openstack-bounces+gabriel.hurley=nebu...@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack- bounces+gabriel.hurley=nebu...@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Thierry Carrez Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 2:57 AM To: open...@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] best practices for merging common into specific projects
Monty Taylor wrote:
However, with a versioned library model, the projects can consume things pinned to specific versions, and then they can submit a change that updates the version depend and the code which needs to be updated to support the version change, and that change can be atomic.
So honestly, I'd say the real key is getting us closer to the point where openstack-common is a proper library, because all of the rest of the complexity is stuff we're inventing to make life harder on ourselves, when the standard library with api-contract and a version model of the world works pretty fine without needing coordinated changes across multiple repositories.
Yes, that's the end goal. And IMHO we are not very far away. I think the main reason we are not there yet is that while a lot of people enjoy giving their opinions about how openstack-common should be done and consumed by projects, not so many people follow up and actually do the work.
Making our multiple projects converge onto consolidated and well-accepted APIs is a bit painful work, but it is a prerequisite to turning openstack- common into a proper library (or set of libraries).
I'd say the whole thing suffers from not having a proper team/leader/coordinator dedicated to it: relying on existing, overstretched PTLs to lead that effort might not be the fastest path.
Regards,
-- Thierry Carrez (ttx) Release Manager, OpenStack
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