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Eduard MoraruSep 25, 2014 2:59 am 
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Guillaume LerougeSep 25, 2014 3:36 am 
Guillaume "Louis-Marie" DelhumeauSep 25, 2014 3:39 am 
Guillaume LerougeSep 25, 2014 3:58 am 
Eduard MoraruSep 25, 2014 4:41 am 
Marius Dumitru FloreaSep 26, 2014 6:54 am 
Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)Sep 29, 2014 4:45 am 
Guillaume LerougeSep 29, 2014 5:48 am 
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Guillaume LerougeSep 29, 2014 6:37 am 
Eduard MoraruOct 1, 2014 12:12 am 
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Guillaume "Louis-Marie" DelhumeauOct 1, 2014 1:59 am 
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Marius Dumitru FloreaOct 1, 2014 3:20 am 
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Subject:Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin
From:Guillaume Lerouge (guil@xwiki.com)
Date:Sep 25, 2014 3:36:41 am
List:org.xwiki.devs

Hi,

please see my comments inline.

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Thomas Mortagne <thom@xwiki.com

wrote:

I have pretty much the same comments. The former location of that button made much more sense to me but given my usual participation to big Flaming design discussions I can't really complain too much ;)

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Eduard Moraru <enyg@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi devs,

I`m not sure if we already have a discussion started on this topic, but in my opinion, it's long overdue. I see people start being confused and questions like this [1] start to be asked.

The new location of the Add menu in Flamingo is problematic IMO for a various number of reasons: - It falsely gives the impression that it adds page-related entries (i.e. related to the current page), due to its current location (i.e. in the page content)

I'm not sure that's a problem. The default behavior of the "create page" button is to create a page that is a child of the current page. Therefore, it can be considered a "current page-related" action.

- It conflicts with AWM`s "Add new Entry" button

Indeed, this would need to be improved.

- from my POV, looking at the page from a far, the new location looks completely randomly selected: -- It's not on the left/top (as left-to-right language specific brains are trained to follow) -- it's not exactly at the top either -- it's not at the right

-- it basically is almost in the middle of the screen

- etc. (i.e. others that don`t come right now to my mind)

I don't have a strong feeling about this. The only comparison I can think of right off the bat is Confluence, which has the same button in a similar location. It doesn't seem to be causing issues to their users.

I would see sense in adding "comment" as an option next to "page" and "page from office".

-- it's not next to the type of elements it creates (i.e. next to

WIKI/SPACE/PAGE)

As stated previously, I think having the same "Create" button for 3 actions that are fundamentally different is the larger issue here. I suggested a solution in the aforementioned email thread (separating the "create space" and "create wiki" buttons).

Thanks,

Guillaume

I`d like to open a discussion on this, since it's quite an important aspect

of the UI and, due to it's shiny green color (which I like :)), it`s hard to miss.

Is it just me who's resistant to change, or do others see a problem here with this as well?

Thanks, Eduard

---------- [1] http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/rqcxryksa2ckjhpm