24 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-advocacyRe: Device Drivers for Linux and Inte...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| James Love | Sep 30, 1998 10:18 am | |
| Brett Glass | Sep 30, 1998 11:05 am | |
| Open Systems Networking | Sep 30, 1998 11:24 am | |
| Frank Pawlak | Oct 2, 1998 8:04 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Oct 2, 1998 8:51 pm | |
| Greg Lehey | Oct 2, 1998 9:04 pm | |
| Brett Glass | Oct 2, 1998 9:11 pm | |
| Nicholas Charles Brawn | Oct 2, 1998 9:26 pm | |
| John Birrell | Oct 2, 1998 9:26 pm | |
| Jason C. Wells | Oct 3, 1998 2:10 am | |
| Jeremy Lea | Oct 3, 1998 5:08 am | |
| Eivind Eklund | Oct 3, 1998 6:25 am | |
| Bill/Carolyn Pechter | Oct 3, 1998 7:13 am | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Oct 3, 1998 7:24 am | |
| Bill/Carolyn Pechter | Oct 3, 1998 9:34 am | |
| Jerry Hicks | Oct 3, 1998 11:34 am | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Oct 3, 1998 12:24 pm | |
| Bill/Carolyn Pechter | Oct 3, 1998 1:35 pm | |
| Stephane Legrand | Oct 4, 1998 12:59 pm | |
| Wes Peters | Oct 9, 1998 12:52 pm | |
| David Greenman | Oct 9, 1998 8:46 pm | |
| Open Systems Networking | Oct 9, 1998 8:53 pm | |
| Kevin Lam | Oct 9, 1998 11:23 pm | |
| Open Systems Networking | Oct 9, 1998 11:53 pm |
| Subject: | Re: Device Drivers for Linux and Intel's annoucement | |
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| From: | Greg Lehey (gr...@lemis.com) | |
| Date: | Oct 2, 1998 9:04:00 pm | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-advocacy | |
At the risk of inducing Jordan's ire, I'm cross-posting this message to -chat (as Bcc:) and -advocacy. Please reply only to -advocacy. I'm doing this because I think an unpleasant situation is developing, and I'd like the personal view of as many FreeBSD users as possible. If *you* think this is important, please let me know what you think.
On Friday, 2 October 1998 at 21:54:18 -0600, Brett Glass wrote:
At 08:28 PM 10/2/98 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
It's interesting that you should say something like this, because I myself was just puzzling over the great disparity between your recent postings on the mailing lists (or your usenet contributions) and your print advocacy. When you're writing for the likes of Sm@rt Reseller, for example, you seem to understand just fine where the right balance between passion and logic lies and you generally make a pretty convincing argument which manages both to be readable and to convey the information you're trying to impart to the reader. As a body of communication, what you've done for print journalism has been just fine and is to be commended.
When it's time to go home to your PC, however, you apparently drop your logic cap into a desk drawer and lock the door, off to give the more passionate side of your nature a turn in the uninhibited disco lights of various public mailing lists.
Not so. In print, I am doing appropriate explanation and advocacy. On these lists, I am projecting trends. And I am stating, quite bluntly, that my minor and little-read recommendations are nowhere near enough to stop FreeBSD's current slide toward insignificance at the hands of the Linux zealots (who have managed to gain the undivided mindshare of such prominent folk as Nick Petreley, Nader's "Appraising Microsoft" team, etc.)
Your're very much entitled to your opinion. On the other hand, when you go out on lists like that, many people will consider you to be a typical FreeBSD user, which I think you are not. Both Jordan and I have repeatedly stated that we think you are harming FreeBSD more than you're helping it (though we both appreciate the good you do, as Jordan shows above).
We could be wrong. Question to everybody who's seen Brett's messages: should he continue, or should he stop? If the consensus is that he should continue, I'll shut up (that places no similar requirement on Jordan, of course :-)
Greg
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