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|cyrille henry||Jul 13, 2010 12:41 am|
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|Roman Haefeli||Jul 13, 2010 1:44 am|
|Roman Haefeli||Jul 13, 2010 2:47 am|
|Frank Barknecht||Jul 13, 2010 3:26 am|
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|Mathieu Bouchard||Jul 13, 2010 8:06 am|
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|Hans-Christoph Steiner||Jul 13, 2010 9:59 am|
|Roman Haefeli||Jul 13, 2010 3:26 pm|
|Frank Barknecht||Jul 13, 2010 11:31 pm|
|Bryan Jurish||Jul 14, 2010 12:30 am|
|Roman Haefeli||Jul 14, 2010 1:21 am|
|Roman Haefeli||Jul 14, 2010 8:45 am|
|Mathieu Bouchard||Jul 14, 2010 9:49 am|
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|Hans-Christoph Steiner||Jul 15, 2010 9:05 am|
|Subject:||Re: [PD] benevolent dictator?|
|From:||Roman Haefeli (redu...@yahoo.de)|
|Date:||Jul 14, 2010 8:45:56 am|
On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 09:30 +0200, Bryan Jurish wrote:
My technique (read: "hack") for auto-loading libraries in vanilla has been just to instantiate an object [foo] in order to load the library foo.pd_linux. This causes error messages for some libraries (notably xsample, which I use a lot), but works well with the vanilla loader. I guess we can't dictate that every library xyz.pd_linux register a class 'xyz', but that's the simplest way I've found of loading libs. Of course, you can't declare inter-library dependencies this way (that I know of), but it's a start...
I don't see how this is an advantage over using an error-free [declare -stdlib extra/foo] (as I mentioned in my previous mail: this works from everywhere). Also, your way does not work for expanding pathes. Or how are you going to make [list-abs/list-add] available as [list-add]?
On 2010-07-13 12:26:42, Frank Barknecht <fb...@footils.org> appears to have written:
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:48:18AM +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:
Personally, I'd prefer to not auto-load anything at all, which would also encourage a nice patching style with explicitly loading the required libraries. I'd be interested to hear what others think about the matter.
I would love a proper way for Pd vanilla/core to load libraries into abstractions. I know of [import] but most of my abstraction libraries target vanilla installs, too, so I cannot use it. And [declare] currently is designed for top-level _main.pd-style patches only, so there's no way to really preload list-abs in RTC-lib-abstractions for example.
If this issue is solved, the problem of autoloading becomes almost moot. Well, there still are some issues like the sad omission of "sssad" in Pd-extended which is not shipped at all but such things are comparatively trivial to fix.