----- Original Message ---- From: João Pais <jmmm...@googlemail.com> To: George Ker <geok...@gmail.com> Cc: pd-list <pd-l...@iem.at> Sent: Fri, 17 September, 2010 23:30:53 Subject: [PD] "I'm on unix, I'm much better than windows users!" (was Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!)

No, but you just said something like "pd is too valuable for windows, these guys can't appreciate the beauty of it, and they just want to be fed whatever the big bo$$ puts in their mouths", and advocate to stop maintaining Pd for windows. And curiously, at the same time you said GNU-Linux is so great, you moved out of it to Mac - where you have to pay double the amount for the hardware, and the manufacturer even goes to the trouble of making sure every laptop model has a different electricity cable, so that you have to spend more money you case you loose it. And you're worried about people not following ideology?

I'm a windows user, I don't know if I'm an "advanced pd user" (or what that is), but I've been using pd only for several years, have done my contributions to pd-ext (extra/jmmmp and donations in $), have patches for people to download if they want to, taken and given Pd workshops, was present in the Floss session, have worked on documentation, and partly organise the pd berlin users meeting. So, I don't appreciate when people judge windows users as idiots which don't know better, because I am one. At least I don't call mac users a bunch of preformatted hipsters who stand for hours in line to be the first to buy whatever crap Jobs launches on the market.

By the way, I don't use IE7, I use Opera for 10 years now (which I configured to acess my accounts and mails from both windows and ubuntu). I have a facebook account, which I use to see how other people are doing - including some of the most advanced pd users present on this list, they post more on it than I do.

If you want to advocate segregation go ahead, but be honest about it. After all you use unix, you have the moral advantage (or you like to say you do).