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Subject:Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]
From:Hans-Christoph Steiner (ha@eds.org)
Date:Feb 16, 2009 12:01:06 pm
List:at.iem.pd-dev

On Feb 16, 2009, at 4:24 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote:

Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

Gem cyclone zexy creb cxc iemlib list-abs mapping markex maxlib memento mjlib motex oscx pddp pdogg pixeltango pmpd rradical sigpack smlib toxy unauthorized vbap pan freeverb hcs jmmmp ext13 ggee iem_anything flib ekext flatspace pdp pidip

I think it should be something like:

cyclone zexy creb iemlib ggee iem_anything flatspace

Uhm: list-abs?

A little problem is coming up with cyclone: Its [pow~] is different from the new builtin [pow~] in 0.42 (reversed inlets). What should we do about that?

What do you propose? The built-in stuff is loaded first, so that will break patches that rely on [pow~] being the cyclone object.

This is a great example of why no libraries should be loaded by default, and instead the library configuration should be part of the patch itself. If we can such a system in place before Pd-extended 0.42, that will make the transition much easier. You could just load 'cyclone' before 'extra' in your own patch, and there would be no conflicts. Yes, it will be annoying in the short run, but in the long run, we'll be better off.

.hc

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