193 messages in net.php.lists.internalsRe: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Stas Malyshev | May 8, 2011 4:40 pm | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | May 8, 2011 8:30 pm | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 9, 2011 12:40 am | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 12:49 am | |
| Stefan Marr | May 9, 2011 1:00 am | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 9, 2011 1:01 am | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 9, 2011 1:03 am | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 1:37 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 7:44 am | |
| Martin Scotta | May 9, 2011 8:50 am | |
| Richard Quadling | May 9, 2011 9:13 am | |
| Philip Olson | May 9, 2011 9:17 am | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | May 9, 2011 9:43 am | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 9:54 am | |
| Marcelo Gornstein | May 9, 2011 9:54 am | |
| Alessandro Nadalin | May 9, 2011 10:01 am | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 10:05 am | |
| Lester Caine | May 9, 2011 10:12 am | |
| Marcelo Gornstein | May 9, 2011 10:19 am | |
| Andi Gutmans | May 9, 2011 10:20 am | |
| Matthew Weier O'Phinney | May 9, 2011 10:21 am | |
| Derick Rethans | May 9, 2011 10:21 am | |
| Andi Gutmans | May 9, 2011 10:22 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 10:25 am | |
| Christopher Jones | May 9, 2011 10:27 am | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 10:30 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 10:31 am | |
| Andi Gutmans | May 9, 2011 10:32 am | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | May 9, 2011 10:38 am | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 9, 2011 10:43 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 10:44 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 10:47 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 10:50 am | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | May 9, 2011 10:53 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 11:07 am | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 11:13 am | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 11:35 am | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 9, 2011 11:39 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 11:52 am | |
| Stefan Marr | May 9, 2011 12:33 pm | |
| Lester Caine | May 9, 2011 2:41 pm | |
| dukeofgaming | May 9, 2011 3:00 pm | |
| Ilia Alshanetsky | May 9, 2011 3:09 pm | |
| Andi Gutmans | May 9, 2011 3:39 pm | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 4:26 pm | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 4:29 pm | |
| Lester Caine | May 9, 2011 5:25 pm | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 5:35 pm | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 5:35 pm | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 9, 2011 5:35 pm | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 5:55 pm | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 6:22 pm | |
| Pierrick Charron | May 9, 2011 8:03 pm | |
| Mike Willbanks | May 9, 2011 8:42 pm | |
| Pierrick Charron | May 9, 2011 8:50 pm | |
| Drak | May 9, 2011 9:09 pm | |
| Lester Caine | May 9, 2011 10:45 pm | |
| Pascal COURTOIS | May 9, 2011 11:06 pm | |
| Chad Fulton | May 10, 2011 12:01 am | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 10, 2011 12:43 am | |
| Lars Schultz | May 10, 2011 1:02 am | |
| Jordi Boggiano | May 10, 2011 1:10 am | |
| Lars Schultz | May 10, 2011 1:16 am | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | May 10, 2011 1:44 am | |
| Sebastian Bergmann | May 10, 2011 2:34 am | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 10, 2011 2:39 am | |
| Sebastian Bergmann | May 10, 2011 2:40 am | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 10, 2011 3:04 am | |
| Drak | May 10, 2011 3:21 am | |
| Stefan Marr | May 10, 2011 4:04 am | |
| Arvids Godjuks | May 10, 2011 4:42 am | |
| Martin Scotta | May 10, 2011 5:28 am | |
| Martin Scotta | May 10, 2011 5:46 am | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 10, 2011 6:13 am | |
| Lars Schultz | May 10, 2011 6:37 am | |
| chri...@mohiva.com | May 10, 2011 6:55 am | |
| Lars Schultz | May 10, 2011 7:12 am | |
| Pas | May 10, 2011 7:19 am | |
| Alain Williams | May 10, 2011 7:19 am | |
| Christian Kaps | May 10, 2011 7:50 am | |
| Lester Caine | May 10, 2011 8:02 am | |
| Arvids Godjuks | May 10, 2011 8:07 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 10, 2011 8:07 am | |
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| Subject: | Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again | |
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| From: | guil...@gmail.com (guil...@gmail.com) | |
| Date: | May 9, 2011 10:50:09 am | |
| List: | net.php.lists.internals | |
Hi Andi,
That's all I want. Someone to at least look at the patch and give me feedback. None here did that, all you're doing is telling "no, we don't accept it".
Why don't you give me some valuable feedback so I can work on the patch to turn it relevant to you?
Regards,
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Andi Gutmans <an...@zend.com> wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Jones [mailto:chri...@oracle.com]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 10:28 AM
To: inte...@lists.php.net; Guilherme Blanco
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again
On 05/09/2011 07:44 AM, guil...@gmail.com wrote:
It seems to me that you are not interested on user's request and
rather accept/implement only what the features that interest you. It's
very bad for the language and very bad for all of users.
Rasmus & Stas have already pointed out this is not valid and lots of user
requests are implemented.
I'd add that PHP has never had a lot of spare developer capacity.
Programmers are not idly sitting around, waiting for random ideas to code
up. If you feel strongly about a feature you have to convince the core
contributors of its merits and (i) pique the interest of someone capable of
implementing it and then help with testing and documentation, or (ii)
implement it all yourself.
It's easier than ever to get an SVN account, so contributing would be a good
way to get karma.
I agree but also want to emphasize that just because there’s a patch it doesn’t mean it’s a good idea and should be accepted.
Of course like Chris points out it’ll significantly increase the chances of people taking it seriously and playing around with the idea.
I also think Matthew makes a good point – annotations can be viewed in different ways and arguably there are already quite a lot of possibilities with what exists today.
Andi
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