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| Subject: | Re: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4? | Actions... |
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| From: | Larry Garfield (lar...@garfieldtech.com) | |
| Date: | Jul 7, 2007 12:11:11 pm | |
| List: | net.php.lists.internals | |
Marco wrote:
Have you ever asked yourselves... why? why PHP5's adoption is so bad?
I think we have all asked that very same question and the answer is a mix of a few standard issues. The hard part has always been deciding how to move it forward. Without the customers demanding change hosts wont do it, without the hosts support application developers are reluctant to move to PHP 5 only versions.
One of the issue's cited was lack of popular opensource projects supporting PHP 5, maybe we should all encourage our favorite packages to sign up to http://gophp5.org/ as this seems like an interesting idea on how to speed up the migration.
Regards
Marco
Thanks for the mention, Marco. :-)
Yes, there is a growing push from open source projects to drop PHP 4 support anyway. By this time next year I expect that the majority of the major projects to all require PHP 5 or doing so very soon. This would be a very good time to announce the pending end of PHP 4 support, whatever the date for it is.
On the subject of stats, something else I've run across while moderating web hosts for GoPHP5 listing is that there are zillions that offer PHP 5. Many offer PHP 5 and PHP 4, including the really big hosts, defaulting to PHP 4 with an .htaccess toggle (or similar) to get to PHP 5. Most people don't use that, however, because the apps they're using only require PHP 4 (because the developers believe PHP 4 is too prevalent). My gut feeling at this point is that deprecating PHP 4 is not as onerous as it might seem just from the Nexen stats; the hosts are already ready.
Oh yes, and hi list!
-- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 lar...@garfieldtech.com ICQ: 6817012








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