51 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-newbiesRe: Newbie tip| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Darren Wiebe | May 11, 1999 9:50 am | |
| G. Adam Stanislav | May 11, 1999 1:24 pm | |
| unkn...@riverstyx.net | May 11, 1999 1:51 pm | |
| Dan Langille | May 11, 1999 2:01 pm | |
| unkn...@riverstyx.net | May 11, 1999 3:03 pm | |
| G. Adam Stanislav | May 11, 1999 3:46 pm | |
| Eric Hodel | May 11, 1999 7:13 pm | |
| Rick Hamell | May 11, 1999 7:17 pm | |
| unkn...@riverstyx.net | May 12, 1999 8:23 pm | |
| unkn...@riverstyx.net | May 12, 1999 8:29 pm | |
| Sue Blake | May 12, 1999 8:42 pm | |
| unkn...@riverstyx.net | May 12, 1999 9:21 pm | |
| G. Adam Stanislav | May 13, 1999 8:11 am | |
| unkn...@riverstyx.net | May 13, 1999 11:49 am | |
| K. Marsh | May 13, 1999 12:06 pm | |
| unkn...@riverstyx.net | May 13, 1999 1:27 pm | |
| The Classiest Man Alive | May 13, 1999 2:00 pm | |
| Sue Blake | May 13, 1999 2:43 pm | |
| unkn...@riverstyx.net | May 13, 1999 3:32 pm | |
| G. Adam Stanislav | May 13, 1999 4:45 pm | |
| rick hamell | May 13, 1999 7:19 pm | |
| Eric Hodel | May 13, 1999 8:02 pm | |
| Alex Kapranoff | May 14, 1999 12:34 am | |
| G. Adam Stanislav | May 14, 1999 6:41 am | |
| G. Adam Stanislav | May 14, 1999 4:46 pm | |
| Sue Blake | May 14, 1999 5:30 pm | |
| Alex Kapranoff | May 15, 1999 1:21 am | |
| G. Adam Stanislav | May 15, 1999 9:04 am | |
| G. Adam Stanislav | May 15, 1999 9:09 am | |
| Tim Vanderhoek | May 15, 1999 2:18 pm | |
| Alex Kapranoff | May 16, 1999 12:42 am | |
| G. Adam Stanislav | May 16, 1999 7:20 am | |
| Adam Szilveszter | May 16, 1999 7:50 am | |
| G. Adam Stanislav | May 16, 1999 11:45 am | |
| Adam Szilveszter | May 16, 1999 1:00 pm | |
| G. Adam Stanislav | May 16, 1999 3:03 pm | |
| Adam Szilveszter | May 16, 1999 11:19 pm | |
| Takeshi Otsuki | May 16, 1999 11:19 pm | |
| Jukka Simila | May 17, 1999 1:25 am | |
| Jukka Simila | May 17, 1999 9:28 am | |
| Adam Szilveszter | May 17, 1999 9:56 am | |
| unkn...@riverstyx.net | May 17, 1999 1:07 pm | |
| David Wolfskill | May 17, 1999 3:35 pm | |
| G. Adam Stanislav | May 17, 1999 3:43 pm | |
| Bill Swingle | May 17, 1999 4:35 pm | |
| unkn...@riverstyx.net | May 17, 1999 4:39 pm | |
| Sue Blake | May 17, 1999 4:40 pm | |
| unkn...@riverstyx.net | May 17, 1999 4:46 pm | |
| Crist J. Clark | May 17, 1999 6:52 pm | |
| Laurence Berland | May 17, 1999 7:42 pm | |
| Alex Kapranoff | May 17, 1999 9:15 pm |
| Subject: | Re: Newbie tip | |
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| From: | G. Adam Stanislav (ze...@buddhist.com) | |
| Date: | May 16, 1999 7:20:04 am | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-newbies | |
At 11:42 16-05-1999 +0400, Alex Kapranoff wrote:
"logout" is a built-in command in csh. "exit" is built-in in every shell ;) E.g., I never use csh, so logout does nothing but errmessages me.
I did not know that. Which shell do you use? I am not happy with csh, but then, I do not really know if the problems I am experiencing are csh specific: For years I have used 4DOS shell on "the other OS." I am used to hitting F9 to have the shell finish typing a file name for me.
It works similar but better than hitting Esc in csh (better because it does not beep if there are several possible options - it presents the first one, and if that is not the one I want, I just need to hit F9 repeatedly until I get to the right one).
Since habits are hard to break, I tend to hit F9 instead of Esc even under csh. That causes real weird behavior of the command line: It prepends the command with [U or some such junk, so I always get a command not found. And there is no way to backspace out of it. I just have to press Enter, feel like an idiot, and retype the command line from scratch.
Another thing 4DOS does that csh does not: It lets me edit whatever I am typing on the command line. I mean, not just by erasing everything with backspace, but it lets me move around with the left/right arrows and either overwrite parts of the line or insert text into it. If I press an arrow key in csh, it causes the same problems as pressing a function key.
Pressing the up/down arrows in 4DOS will display previous commands used in their entirety, and lets me edit those as well. Under csh, I have to use that ugly ! thing, where I get only the last matching command, or I have to remember exactly its number (which I do not remember, I am not a computer). And I cannot edit it either.
Is there any shell that works similar to 4DOS? Just to stop anyone from getting upset: 4DOS is NOT a Microsoft product - it was presumably written to give the other OS the capabilities of Unix shells; I just have not found the Unix shell with those capabilities yet. :-( Nor do the authors of 4DOS have a 4Unix shell (and they do not give out the source code to 4DOS).
Adam
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