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| Sergey Sharybin | Jan 4, 2012 11:57 am | |
| Thomas Dinges | Jan 4, 2012 12:07 pm | |
| Nathan Letwory | Jan 4, 2012 12:12 pm | |
| Peter Amstutz | Jan 4, 2012 1:34 pm | |
| Knapp | Jan 4, 2012 1:42 pm | |
| Tobias Kummer | Jan 4, 2012 6:45 pm | |
| Campbell Barton | Jan 4, 2012 7:56 pm | |
| Sergey Sharybin | Jan 4, 2012 11:59 pm | |
| Domino Marama | Jan 5, 2012 3:51 am | |
| Brecht Van Lommel | Jan 5, 2012 2:27 pm | |
| Domino Marama | Jan 5, 2012 2:54 pm | |
| Ton Roosendaal | Jan 6, 2012 2:58 am | |
| Gaia Clary | Jan 6, 2012 3:41 am | |
| Sergey Sharybin | Jan 6, 2012 3:48 am | |
| Thomas Dinges | Jan 6, 2012 3:51 am | |
| Campbell Barton | Jan 6, 2012 4:07 am | |
| Knapp | Jan 6, 2012 10:51 am | |
| Morten Mikkelsen | Jan 6, 2012 12:20 pm | |
| Francesco Zoffoli | Jan 6, 2012 4:03 pm | |
| skoti | Jan 6, 2012 5:11 pm | |
| Morten Mikkelsen | Jan 6, 2012 5:34 pm | |
| Przemyslaw Golab | Jan 7, 2012 12:40 am | |
| Ton Roosendaal | Jan 7, 2012 3:30 am | |
| skoti | Jan 7, 2012 5:03 am | |
| Morten Mikkelsen | Jan 7, 2012 6:49 am | |
| Juan Linietsky | Jan 7, 2012 7:06 am | |
| Morten Mikkelsen | Jan 7, 2012 7:38 am | |
| Juan Linietsky | Jan 7, 2012 7:49 am | |
| Juan Linietsky | Jan 7, 2012 7:51 am | |
| Juan Linietsky | Jan 7, 2012 8:22 am | |
| Morten Mikkelsen | Jan 7, 2012 8:29 am | |
| Domino Marama | Jan 7, 2012 9:03 am | |
| Erwin Coumans | Jan 7, 2012 9:07 am | |
| Juan Linietsky | Jan 7, 2012 9:10 am | |
| Erwin Coumans | Jan 7, 2012 9:23 am | |
| Morten Mikkelsen | Jan 7, 2012 9:46 am | |
| skoti | Jan 7, 2012 10:15 am | |
| Gaia Clary | Jan 7, 2012 10:34 am | |
| Knapp | Jan 7, 2012 10:34 am | |
| Erwin Coumans | Jan 7, 2012 11:15 am | |
| Alexandr Kuznetsov | Jan 7, 2012 11:32 am | |
| Juan Linietsky | Jan 7, 2012 12:04 pm | |
| Juan Linietsky | Jan 7, 2012 12:06 pm | |
| Juan Linietsky | Jan 7, 2012 12:08 pm | |
| Erwin Coumans | Jan 7, 2012 12:13 pm | |
| Sergey Kurdakov | Jan 7, 2012 12:31 pm | |
| Sebastian | Jan 7, 2012 1:22 pm | |
| Juan Linietsky | Jan 7, 2012 2:33 pm | |
| Morten Mikkelsen | Jan 7, 2012 3:08 pm | |
| Juan Linietsky | Jan 7, 2012 3:24 pm | |
| Morten Mikkelsen | Jan 7, 2012 3:36 pm | |
| Campbell Barton | Jan 7, 2012 6:44 pm | |
| skoti | Jan 8, 2012 1:57 am | |
| François T. | Jan 8, 2012 3:23 pm | |
| Juan Linietsky | Jan 8, 2012 3:30 pm | |
| angj...@gulftel.com | Jan 8, 2012 4:34 pm | |
| Juan Linietsky | Jan 8, 2012 7:16 pm | |
| Campbell Barton | Jan 8, 2012 8:39 pm | |
| Juan Linietsky | Jan 8, 2012 9:36 pm | |
| Kalle-Samuli Riihikoski | Jan 8, 2012 9:54 pm | |
| Campbell Barton | Jan 8, 2012 9:56 pm | |
| François T. | Jan 9, 2012 12:26 am | |
| Ton Roosendaal | Jan 9, 2012 2:43 am | |
| Sebastian | Jan 9, 2012 3:09 am | |
| Domino Marama | Jan 9, 2012 3:59 am | |
| François T. | Jan 9, 2012 5:30 am | |
| Peter Amstutz | Jan 9, 2012 5:37 am | |
| Domino Marama | Jan 9, 2012 5:50 am | |
| Juan Linietsky | Jan 9, 2012 6:07 am | |
| Sebastian | Jan 9, 2012 7:22 am | |
| Domino Marama | Jan 9, 2012 7:53 am | |
| spatial | Jan 9, 2012 2:52 pm | |
| Sebastian | Jan 9, 2012 3:25 pm | |
| Antony Riakiotakis | Jan 9, 2012 3:33 pm | |
| Campbell Barton | Jan 9, 2012 3:37 pm | |
| Campbell Barton | Jan 9, 2012 4:19 pm | |
| Ton Roosendaal | Jan 10, 2012 2:14 am | |
| johannes amorosa | Jan 10, 2012 3:29 am | |
| spatial | Jan 10, 2012 3:57 am | |
| François T. | Jan 10, 2012 5:57 am | |
| Erwin Coumans | Jan 10, 2012 6:30 am | |
| Gaia Clary | Jan 10, 2012 7:45 am | |
| Juan Linietsky | Jan 10, 2012 1:47 pm | |
| Daniel Salazar - 3Developer.com | Jan 10, 2012 1:52 pm | |
| Juan Linietsky | Jan 10, 2012 2:39 pm | |
| Ton Roosendaal | Jan 11, 2012 2:05 am | |
| Sebastian | Jan 11, 2012 11:59 am | |
| Juan Linietsky | Jan 11, 2012 7:26 pm | |
| Juha Mäki-Kanto | Jan 14, 2012 12:27 pm | |
| Juha Mäki-Kanto | Jan 15, 2012 3:21 am | |
| Juan Linietsky | Jan 15, 2012 6:10 am | |
| Sebastian | Jan 15, 2012 6:23 am | |
| Juha Mäki-Kanto | Jan 15, 2012 11:37 am | |
| Peter Amstutz | Jan 17, 2012 1:43 pm | |
| Stephen Swaney | Jan 17, 2012 6:27 pm |
| Subject: | Re: [Bf-committers] Collada importer/exporter kickout | |
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| From: | Campbell Barton (idea...@gmail.com) | |
| Date: | Jan 8, 2012 8:39:08 pm | |
| List: | org.blender.bf-committers | |
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Juan Linietsky <redu...@gmail.com> wrote:
but as it is right now it does support animations, in my opinion(which i know doesn't amount to much right now) we need an equivalent to start with before it gets tore out. i agree it needs to be python like the rest,but to rip it out now and (no offense Juan) replace it with something that requires more work just to bring it back up to where it is now would be silly imho.
I'm not sure what you mean, but just in case it was a typo, what i submitted does support animations fine, and even bakes IK and constraints when exporting (something the current one using OC doesn't). The only real missing thing in what I submitted is 1) Cleaning up the export options (enable/disable stuff) 2) Morphs 3) Optimizing keyframes, like the FBX exporter 4) Fixing a bug or two because It wasn't tested as widely, only in some specific projects with some clients.
Other than that, it exports everything fine and is as small as it can get. The reason why this exporter is not 100% nice and polished is because I didn't write this for inclusion into Blender, I wrote it because I got tired of waiting for the Collada exporter to actually work, so I made my own in a weekend. I'm not interested in mantaining it for the Blender community either (I don't have enough time), and I'm only submitting it now because I see that after half a decade, Blender is still going nowhere in the Collada support. At this point, it seems to me that most of the Blender developers really either don't care about ir or have more important things to do than supporting an open export format.
So in short, I submitted code that works, and should be very easy to mantain due to the compact size (it's MUCH simpler than the FBX exporter and it exports about the same information). If you guys want to take it over and integrate it into Blender, go ahead, else i'll keep mantaining it for my own purposes and according to the needs of my clients. I appreciate enormously the work the community has put into Blender, but this is as much as I can contribute back for now.
Cheers
Juan Linietsky
@Juan, even if your not especially interested to maintain for such a wide variety of uses. (since it seems your happy with a fixed set of features which is understandable for a format with very broad spec).
perhaps you could committed this as an addon so others can use it without having to manually download and install.
As the author you can accept/reject changes so it wont become something too different from your original intentions.
Reason I suggest this is that I'd rather not have the script committed and then you continue to maintain your own version - where both scripts get out of sync, fixes not applied to both - its worth avoiding a fork if we can.
The addon can start in `contrib` repository which is available when `Testing` scripts are enabled.
What do you think?
-- - Campbell
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