24 messages in net.sourceforge.lists.courier-users[courier-users] It's your mua's fault...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Randy Lewis (Kenneth R. Lewis) | Jan 24, 2002 1:03 pm | |
| Bill Williamson | Jan 24, 2002 1:20 pm | |
| Sysop | Jan 24, 2002 1:32 pm | |
| Tim Hosking | Jan 24, 2002 1:53 pm | |
| Sysop | Jan 24, 2002 1:59 pm | |
| Randy Lewis (Kenneth R. Lewis) | Jan 24, 2002 2:11 pm | |
| Johannes Erdfelt | Jan 24, 2002 2:17 pm | |
| Aly S.P Dharshi | Jan 24, 2002 2:20 pm | |
| Sysop | Jan 24, 2002 2:22 pm | |
| Sysop | Jan 24, 2002 2:24 pm | |
| Bill Williamson | Jan 24, 2002 2:34 pm | |
| Randy Lewis (Kenneth R. Lewis) | Jan 24, 2002 6:25 pm | |
| Delyan Toshev | Jan 25, 2002 8:20 am | |
| cap...@tomcat.colomsat.net.co | Jan 25, 2002 8:30 am | |
| Randy Lewis (Kenneth R. Lewis) | Jan 25, 2002 8:57 am | |
| Tomas Fasth | Jan 25, 2002 10:37 am | |
| Johannes Erdfelt | Jan 25, 2002 10:40 am | |
| Tomas Fasth | Jan 25, 2002 11:03 am | |
| Sysop | Jan 25, 2002 12:20 pm | |
| Sam Varshavchik | Jan 25, 2002 3:29 pm | |
| Alessandro Vesely | Jan 26, 2002 7:34 am | |
| Tomas Fasth | Jan 26, 2002 8:17 am | |
| Sam Varshavchik | Jan 26, 2002 5:03 pm | |
| Drew Raines | Jan 28, 2002 9:47 am |
| Subject: | [courier-users] It's your mua's fault, my friend, not the mlm (was: I.P. based (virtual) multiple Domains ...) | |
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| From: | Tomas Fasth (tom...@euronetics.se) | |
| Date: | Jan 26, 2002 8:17:41 am | |
| List: | net.sourceforge.lists.courier-users | |
Sysop wrote:
Tomas Fasth wrote:
I see. Anyway, I like it as it is. The list is just distributing messages on behalf of real people. I appreciate to see the original poster as sender. <tomas/>
Seeing the sender is one thing, changing the 'replay-to' header is completely different. You can see who it came from just fine, but when you click reply, it replies to the list, and not to the individual sender.
I can see your point. But I believe that the problem is not the list manager but your mail user agent (mail client). All the information is already in the headers:
Sender: cour...@lists.sourceforge.net List-Post: <mailto:cour...@lists.sourceforge.net>
Besides, Reply-To: should relate to the originator, not the intermediate sender. That's why it should not be tampered with by a list manager. Instead, your mua should present a richer set of reply options:
Reply to poster => Populate To: with From:, or Reply-to: if present Reply to sender => Populate To with Sender: Reply to list => Populate To with List-Post: and Cc: with Cc: Reply to all => Populate To with From: or Reply-To: and Cc: with Cc:
This message for example, I hit 'reply-all' adn there is 4 names in the list... Now we could have 4 different versions of this thread floating around, half in the list, half out, causing all kinds of confusion.
I don't understand why this is a problem for you, other than you might receive double copies yourself if other people replys to all. Those who's handle large amounts of email each day, are likely to filter list postings into separate folders. Being on Cc: is a way to keep track of the threads you're active in (those will stay in the inbox, the rest drops into a separate folder). Of course, the usefulness of all this depends on your own preferences. I just wanted to emphasize that not everyone see this as a problem, but rather a useful feature.
The 'feature' is maddenly annoying, and is hardcoded into the sourceforge software set, and the authors of SF (VA Linux) arn't going to change it. SO, we have to either put up with it, or use better software *Couriermlm*
There's nothing wrong with the MailMan software. It offers out of the box settings like: Direct postings to: a) Poster b) This list c) Explicit address (using Reply-To:), although they recommand in the help text not to "highjack" the Reply-To: field. If those are disabled, it's the administrator to blame, not the software. If they used Couriermlm it could still be disabled.
<tomas/>