44 messages in com.perforce.perforce-user[p4] Peforce History in source code
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Joe Cotellese14 Oct 1999 09:58 
Alex Nicolaou14 Oct 1999 14:24 
Kevin L. McWhirter14 Oct 1999 21:05 
Michael Peppler15 Oct 1999 06:55 
Mike Meyer15 Oct 1999 08:21 
Gregg G. Wonderly15 Oct 1999 08:40 
Dave Foglesong15 Oct 1999 08:58 
Paul Jackson15 Oct 1999 10:08 
Greg Spencer15 Oct 1999 10:17 
Kevin L. McWhirter18 Oct 1999 18:52 
Kevin L. McWhirter18 Oct 1999 18:57 
Paul Jackson18 Oct 1999 19:50 
Kevin L. McWhirter18 Oct 1999 20:19 
Marc Kwiatkowski18 Oct 1999 22:25 
Hoff, Todd19 Oct 1999 07:10 
David Weller19 Oct 1999 07:22 
Rob Juergens19 Oct 1999 07:26 
Roger Day19 Oct 1999 07:27 
Michael Peppler19 Oct 1999 07:34 
Paul Jackson19 Oct 1999 07:42 
Short, Todd19 Oct 1999 07:53 
Ken Rice19 Oct 1999 07:56 
Dave Lewis19 Oct 1999 08:07 
Sam Falkner19 Oct 1999 09:04 
Paul Goffin19 Oct 1999 09:12 
Ines Heinz19 Oct 1999 09:32 
Richard Brooksby19 Oct 1999 09:45 
Rick Macdonald19 Oct 1999 11:16 
Rajul Vora19 Oct 1999 17:35 
Paul Jackson19 Oct 1999 20:56 
Anthony Kolarik20 Oct 1999 06:14 
Michael Go20 Oct 1999 08:14.bin
Christian Ludloff20 Oct 1999 09:43 
Scott Blachowicz20 Oct 1999 10:10 
Marc Kwiatkowski20 Oct 1999 10:17 
Michael Go20 Oct 1999 11:00.bin
Joe Cotellese20 Oct 1999 14:32 
Dave Lewis20 Oct 1999 14:52 
Mike Meyer20 Oct 1999 15:06 
Joan Yuen20 Oct 1999 15:16 
Piaw Na20 Oct 1999 15:57 
Andrew Dalgleish20 Oct 1999 17:38 
David Corbin21 Oct 1999 11:27 
Mike Meyer21 Oct 1999 13:20 
Subject:[p4] Peforce History in source code
From:Ines Heinz (hei@llnl.gov)
Date:10/19/1999 09:32:29 AM
List:com.perforce.perforce-user

Well, after listening to this thread for a while, I thought I would weigh in. I don't want $Log$ and my developers mostly don't know or care about it. As it is, I have trouble getting my developers to put in comments. If they then got their files polluted by those comments, they would put even fewer comments.

Also, it is difficult enough to get people to integrate on a regular basis without adding more confusion to the mix by putting in somewhat extraneous differences in all those files. Please correct me if I am mistaken, but if we had $Log$ expansion, all files would have conflicts during branch to branch integration where the expansion had occurred.

Yes, I could just not use $Log$, which is what would happen. However, there are a few jokers in the mix at my company that would try it out because it was new. I would rather not have to go and politely chastise people for use of another feature of perforce.

Finally, I would rather perforce work on the bugfixes and new features of my choice (a true RENAME!) than a feature that will cause me problems.

Ines Paul Goffin wrote:

I'm anti and I care - for the following reasons:

1. I have my own large list of Perforce bug-fixes and enhancements that I'd prefer the Perforce developers to be working on.

2. If it's included, it will slow Perforce down (harvesting the meta-data at sync time will have a cost - perhaps a big one with large change sets and large numbers of files.)

OK, so I won't use it and I won't be slowed down.

EXCEPT, I bet some of my developers will use it (especially the ones new to Perforce who are used to $Log$ being the only useful way to get change history from RCS) and I then I won't be able to switch it off!

So I will be slowed down after all.

What I don't understand about the anti-$Log$ camp is why you care. If you don't want to use $Log$, don't use it. Why object to perforce adding a feature which clearly many people want?

For the record, I've used $Log$ in the past and found it useful. In the context of my current project I don't think I'd use it even if it was supported, but I would like that to be my decision, rather than being forced not to by the tool.

Ken.

At 10:25 PM -0700 10/18/99, Marc Kwiatkowski wrote:

Since there's been so much pro-$Log hysteria, I'll submit a nay on the odd chance that perforce might actually be tallying votes.

What I don't understand about the pro-$Log$ camp is where are you working such that you can't access a p4-server to get file history, a satellite? perforce works well of over a 28.8 modem. Sheesh.