Drak wrote:

*IS* it clear by now that the majority of users want this? And the argument that 'You don't have to use it' does not wash either since once it has been pushed in, some of the libraries we are using are going to start requiring it simply because those developers do like the idea, but it does not necessarily mean that THE CURRENT PROPOSAL is the right way of doing it? What I seem to have lost is the evidence that annotations are going in because we HAVE all agreed to them? If they CAN'T be implemented as a PECL extension, then they need a very good implementation covering all aspects even before it is decided that they should be pushed in? Much like Traits ...

The current standards such as phpdoc are falling well behind because nobody has the time to implement some of the ALREADY created new features. It is this that is more annoying given the investment in time just to try and keep up, And creating tools intended for users who don't like the existing tools is further watering down the project :( The existing tools had been working well, but nowadays things are simply becoming a mess ...

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