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Subject:Re: your mail
From:spork (spo@super-g.com)
Date:Jun 27, 1998 12:12:09 pm
List:org.freebsd.freebsd-questions

Do the folks that oppose this stuff feel that it is someone else's responsibility to teach their children right from wrong? There are alot of things wrong with the world, but trying to "protect" children from all the wrongs rather than educating them seems backwards.

All the time Mr. Woerner has spent sending these emails to this list would have been better spent on volunteering at a local youth outreach center I think.

Charles Sprickman spo@super-g.com

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On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Arne Woerner wrote:

i thought ques@freebsd.org is an email address where complaints about http://www.de.freebsd.org/cgallery.html can be sent to. all links i annouced can be found on the freebsd pages! i have annouced these links because some subscribers asked me to do this!

on bill gates' page no one will ever find those references. and bill gates' support engineers would not tell lies about people who try to help!

your web pages are very uncool!

i do not want any emails from you. thank you!

-woerner

From dj@lucy.bedford.net Sat Jun 27 13:23:11 1998 From: CyberPeasant <dj@lucy.bedford.net>

Subject: Re: your mail from 1998-06-27 05:31:27 etc. pp. To: arne@tu-clausthal.de (Arne Woerner) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 07:22:29 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Arne Woerner wrote

i never sent any emails to your domain.

Yes you did; I have archived several of them. They are undeniably from you. Since my porn filter caught them, you received warning messages. Child pornography is illegal in the United States. It is not a suitable subject for discussion on a technical questions mailing list with thousands of innocent subscribers.

Please do not send any more material about child pornography to me or I shall certainly take action with responsible authorities.

I AM ADVISING YOU NOW THAT I DO NOT WISH TO RECEIVE EMAIL FROM YOU ABOUT CHILD PORNOGRAPHY. I AM NOT GOING TO VISIT ANY WEBSITES THAT YOU SUGGEST, AND IF YOU PERSIST, I CAN AND WILL TAKE ACTION.

*** ICH SAGE IHNEN, DASZ ICH K E I N KINDERPORN WUENSCHE. *** ICH WERDE DIES ANWEIS N I C H T WIEDERHOLEN.

please blame the maintainer of the mailing list for those mails. no more mails from you to me, please!

thank you.

-woerner From list@lucy.bedford.net Sat Jun 27 11:38:56 1998

Subject: Auto Response To: arne@tu-clausthal.de (Arne Woerner) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 05:31:27 -0400 (EDT) X-no-archive: yes From: CyberPeasant <dj@bedford.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This is an automated response.

Email sent to my address contained sufficient trigger-words to suggest that it contains child pornography or other undesirable and/or other illegal material.

If such mails persist, legal action will be taken.

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From djv Sat Jun 27 04:42:42 1998 From: Arne Woerner <arne@tu-clausthal.de> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 09:23:42 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <1998@azurix.rz.tu-clausthal.de> To: ques@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: arne@tu-clausthal.de Subject: Re: http://www.de.freebsd.org/cgallery.html Sender: owne@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG

i found a third possibly child-endangering reference: <LI><A HREF="http://www.persiankitty.com"><STRONG>WWW.PersianKitty.COM </STRONG></A> -- Adult Links web site</LI> suspicious words: Adult Links

thank you for your cooperation.

-woerner

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From list@lucy.bedford.net Sat Jun 27 13:08:24 1998

Subject: Auto Response To: arne@tu-clausthal.de (Arne Woerner) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 07:07:46 -0400 (EDT) X-no-archive: yes From: CyberPeasant <dj@bedford.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Arne Woerner wrote:

From djv Sat Jun 27 05:23:43 1998 From: Arne Woerner <arne@tu-clausthal.de> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 10:12:36 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <1998@azurix.rz.tu-clausthal.de> To: jul@whistle.com, ques@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: arne@tu-clausthal.de Subject: Re: http://www.de.freebsd.org/cgallery.html Sender: owne@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG

i sent my complaint to the Nacamar Corp. which is responsible for the host www.de.freebsd.org .

i have nothing to do with this case anymore. so do not send any email to me.

-woerner

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From list@lucy.bedford.net Sat Jun 27 13:08:27 1998

Subject: Auto Response To: arne@tu-clausthal.de (Arne Woerner) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 07:04:46 -0400 (EDT) X-no-archive: yes From: CyberPeasant <dj@bedford.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This is an automated response.

Email sent to my address contained sufficient trigger-words to suggest that it contains child pornography or other undesirable and/or other illegal material.

If such mails persist, legal action will be taken.

-------------------TEXT OF OFFENDING MAIL-------------------------------------

From djv Sat Jun 27 06:03:43 1998 From: Arne Woerner <arne@tu-clausthal.de> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 11:10:56 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <1998@azurix.rz.tu-clausthal.de> To: gr@lemis.com, ques@FreeBSD.ORG, webm@freebsd.de, wos@cs.tu-berlin.de Cc: arne@tu-clausthal.de Subject: Re: http://www.de.freebsd.org/cgallery.html Sender: owne@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG

From gr@freebie.lemis.com Sat Jun 27 10:53:50 1998

Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:23:32 +0930 From: Greg Lehey <gr@lemis.com> To: Arne Woerner <arne@tu-clausthal.de>, ques@freebsd.org Subject: Re: http://www.de.freebsd.org/cgallery.html Mime-Version: 1.0 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062

On Saturday, 27 June 1998 at 9:22:36 +0200, Arne Woerner wrote:

thank you for your funny excuses.

Is this intended to be a reply to my previous message? If so, you should say so. It's also common practice to quote previous correspondence and reply to the person who wrote the message as well as the list. See http://www.lemis.com/email.html for more details. hmm!

its necessary to check _all_ links.

OK. When you've done it, tell us about it.

i do not offer those pages. so i am not responsible for them. so i will not check all links.

the link i found suspicious is <LI><A HREF="http://www.freexxxvideo.com"> <STRONG>All Free XXX Videos</STRONG> </A> -- Adult Entertainment - More than 100 free streaming video clips. </LI> suspicous are the following strings: XXX Adult Entertainment Videos

Well, they're probably not in the best of taste, but I'd suspect that the Webmaster could also have discerned the nature of the link when he added it. you allow untrusted persons to add things to your webpages???

In your first message you say:

with high pssibility you have a link to a website which offers child-endangering material on your webpage http://www.de.freebsd.org/cgallery.html .

You mention *one* link. You say "child-endangering". Please explain.

yes! 'a link' means 'at least one link'. i am sure that there exists a valid law which protects children from watching pictures of naked persons.

i think the reference is away in 24 hours?

Well, do you or don't you? You'll have to ask yourself that question. I don't expect they'll go that fast.

i dont know. it is not my case anymore. i do not want to discuss this case anymore.

From a legal standpoint, I believe these sites are legal. There is no

bestiality, there is no underage sex. If you still want to get it changed, I'd suggest you contact the Webmaster rather than the technical questions list. He's Wolfram Schneider <wos@cs.tu-berlin.de>, as you could have found with a more perfunctory search of the web pages than you appear to have performed.

beatiality and underage sex would be even worse than child-endangering. i do not know the contents of those sites. i said that there is a high possibility that those contents are child-endangering. sorry for my bad english but its not my native language. at the bottom of the page i saw the email address ques@freebsd.org and i thought this would be the address for mails regarding that page.

Greg

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