32 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-arch4.x compatibilty.. Was: MFC of rcNG?| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Doug Barton | Jun 15, 2002 12:14 pm | |
| Gordon Tetlow | Jun 16, 2002 9:58 am | |
| Doug Barton | Jun 16, 2002 11:01 am | |
| Julian Elischer | Jun 16, 2002 1:24 pm | |
| Doug Barton | Jun 16, 2002 1:50 pm | |
| Nik Clayton | Jun 16, 2002 2:39 pm | |
| Doug Barton | Jun 16, 2002 3:07 pm | |
| Mike Makonnen | Jun 17, 2002 2:10 am | |
| Dag-Erling Smorgrav | Jun 17, 2002 2:32 am | |
| Sheldon Hearn | Jun 17, 2002 9:01 am | |
| Garance A Drosihn | Jun 17, 2002 11:48 am | |
| Mike Makonnen | Jun 17, 2002 4:51 pm | |
| Giorgos Keramidas | Jun 17, 2002 7:49 pm | |
| Sheldon Hearn | Jun 18, 2002 1:29 am | |
| Doug Barton | Jun 18, 2002 2:06 am | |
| Mike Makonnen | Jun 18, 2002 5:04 am | |
| Sheldon Hearn | Jun 18, 2002 5:21 am | |
| Trish Lynch | Jun 18, 2002 6:04 am | |
| Mike Makonnen | Jun 18, 2002 6:05 am | |
| Sheldon Hearn | Jun 18, 2002 6:12 am | |
| Mike Makonnen | Jun 18, 2002 7:26 am | |
| Doug Barton | Jun 18, 2002 10:54 am | |
| Sheldon Hearn | Jun 18, 2002 11:06 am | |
| Doug Barton | Jun 18, 2002 11:23 am | |
| Sheldon Hearn | Jun 18, 2002 11:35 am | |
| Doug Barton | Jun 18, 2002 11:41 am | |
| Gordon Tetlow | Jun 18, 2002 12:53 pm | |
| Nik Clayton | Jun 18, 2002 2:40 pm | |
| Doug Barton | Jun 18, 2002 3:17 pm | |
| Nik Clayton | Jun 18, 2002 3:27 pm | |
| Garance A Drosihn | Jun 18, 2002 6:00 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Jun 18, 2002 6:20 pm |
| Subject: | 4.x compatibilty.. Was: MFC of rcNG? | |
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| From: | Julian Elischer (jul...@elischer.org) | |
| Date: | Jun 16, 2002 1:24:24 pm | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-arch | |
On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Gordon Tetlow wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Doug Barton wrote:
[Moved to -arch, since the cvs-* lists have suffered enough recently.]
The only MFC candidate I'd like to see is /etc/rc.subr. This would allow the ports collection to use the facilities provided by rcng while not making everything dependent on whether you are using CURRENT or STABLE.
The reason for having 4.x branch is for 'backwards compaitible' changes to be made available to users of 4.x FreeBSD.
The only features fo rcNG that can be MFC'd are those that are pure additions. For example I know companies that have changes that rely very heavily on the current rc layout. These are national and international banks so please do NOT break this if you want to be able to get jobs at these places as FreeBSD admins, or even use them as FreeBSD references, because the reason they use BSD is stability. If we start pissing them off they might as well go elsewhere. As of this writing, They are (some have) transitioning from 4.1.1+SAs to 4.4p13. they will continue to sit on 4.4pxx until about June to October 2003 when they will transition to 4.8 (at least this is the plan they have indicated at this time (they don't like upgrading more than once every two years because they need to do a complete system retest before thay will accept a new release from us)). Some were so happy with 4.1.1 that they have hung back there longer than anticipated.. The plan I am suggesting to them at the moment is to migrate to 5.4 or later in about 2005.
By then hopefully the need for the SNA cards we have in them at the moment with proprietary drivers (binary only) will have subsided so we won't need to get those drivers rewritten for us... (So binary compatibility from 4.1.1 to 4.8 is a big deal for us for drivers.. including mbuf layout,, ISA interface, ifnet layout etc.)
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