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Subject:Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic
From:johann Sorel (sore@inbox.com)
Date:Nov 3, 2011 4:41:53 am
List:org.apache.harmony.dev

Thanks for the details.

well if it's not possible, that's it, no reason to continue on this topic. At least I see several people appreciate the notion of public-domain/unlicense
:) .

so ... Bye harmony and let's hope someone will revive you one day.

johann

-----Original Message----- From: t.p.@gmail.com Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:30:24 +0000 To: de@harmony.apache.org Subject: Re: [Vote] Move Apache Harmony to the Attic

On 03/11/2011 08:49, johann Sorel wrote:

You are right, if they want they can use it with this license but still it's a source of problems. we have plenty of different licenses out there, MIT, BSD, GPL ... and some more license we surely be created in the futur, mixing them is not always fun. All of them are not fully compatible. Legal problems are something really dirty when you encounter them, noone working on open-source projects want to have such problems.

The apache license is ~more or less~ fine today (everyone has it's own preference), but might become a problem later. To avoid those problems the change can only be done now while the PMC is still here.

There are no rights granted explicitly to the PMC itself, so it is not true that anything is 'lost' in this regard when the PMC is disbanded.

Setting it in public domain can also make it revive, forks can start much more easely from it. Several JVM have ~dyed~ (or are in lawsuit like google dalvik, android) in the last year. Having a few more vm out there would be for the best, specialy if they are already reliable alternatives like harmony.

Contributions to the Harmony project are all made under the ICLA [1] which grants licenses to the Foundation and to recipients of the code we distribute.

While Apache owns the collective work of a release, the original author retains ownership of their individual contributions. Therefore Apache can only operate within the terms of the license granted.

Even if we wanted to - the gift is not ours to give.

[1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt

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