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| Kay Sievers | Nov 16, 2010 7:46 am | |
| Alan Cox | Nov 16, 2010 7:56 am | |
| Kay Sievers | Nov 16, 2010 8:12 am | |
| Alan Cox | Nov 16, 2010 9:14 am | |
| Kay Sievers | Nov 16, 2010 10:51 am | |
| Alan Cox | Nov 16, 2010 11:55 am | |
| Kay Sievers | Nov 16, 2010 12:15 pm | |
| Alan Cox | Nov 16, 2010 12:48 pm | |
| Kay Sievers | Nov 16, 2010 1:28 pm | |
| Lennart Poettering | Nov 16, 2010 1:35 pm | |
| Lennart Poettering | Nov 16, 2010 1:42 pm | |
| Alan Cox | Nov 16, 2010 2:51 pm | |
| Alan Cox | Nov 16, 2010 2:55 pm | |
| Lennart Poettering | Nov 16, 2010 2:58 pm | |
| Alan Cox | Nov 16, 2010 3:04 pm | |
| Lennart Poettering | Nov 16, 2010 3:10 pm | |
| Lennart Poettering | Nov 16, 2010 3:18 pm | |
| Alan Cox | Nov 16, 2010 3:45 pm | |
| Etched Pixels | Nov 16, 2010 3:49 pm | |
| John Stoffel | Nov 17, 2010 8:31 am | |
| Vald...@vt.edu | Nov 17, 2010 2:00 pm | |
| Kay Sievers | Nov 17, 2010 3:39 pm | |
| Alan Cox | Nov 17, 2010 3:56 pm | |
| Greg KH | Nov 17, 2010 5:27 pm | |
| Lennart Poettering | Nov 17, 2010 5:48 pm | |
| Greg KH | Nov 17, 2010 5:52 pm | |
| Lennart Poettering | Nov 17, 2010 6:28 pm | |
| Alan Cox | Nov 18, 2010 2:14 am | |
| Dr. Werner Fink | Nov 18, 2010 2:59 am | |
| Alan Cox | Nov 18, 2010 3:23 am | |
| Kay Sievers | Nov 18, 2010 3:54 am | |
| Kay Sievers | Nov 18, 2010 4:03 am | |
| Dr. Werner Fink | Nov 18, 2010 4:12 am | |
| Alan Cox | Nov 18, 2010 4:57 am | |
| Alan Cox | Nov 18, 2010 5:00 am | |
| Dr. Werner Fink | Nov 18, 2010 5:13 am | |
| Alan Cox | Nov 18, 2010 6:41 am | |
| Dr. Werner Fink | Nov 19, 2010 5:21 am | |
| Alan Cox | Nov 19, 2010 7:46 am | |
| Dr. Werner Fink | Nov 19, 2010 9:06 am | .tiocgdev |
| Greg KH | Nov 19, 2010 10:02 am | |
| Dr. Werner Fink | Nov 19, 2010 10:41 am | |
| Alan Cox | Nov 20, 2010 4:39 am | |
| Dr. Werner Fink | Dec 1, 2010 3:15 am | |
| Dr. Werner Fink | Dec 1, 2010 4:31 am | .tiocgdev |
| Dr. Werner Fink | Dec 3, 2010 3:47 am | .Other |
| Subject: | Re: tty: add 'active' sysfs attribute to tty0 and console device | |
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| From: | Alan Cox (al...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) | |
| Date: | Nov 17, 2010 3:56:24 pm | |
| List: | org.kernel.vger.linux-kernel | |
Brilliant conclusion. If you have mounted it, you own it. But you can not make your inactive session mount another new one. It's like this since ages. Hint: try stuff before hitting reply too fast. :)
Except during the window when screen switching, or of course you could just ssh in remotely and gdb or similar a process with it as controlling tty running on your console and issue a vt switch back, then mount it. Ironically the move from a root owned X server has made that much simpler to automate, although it was always possible.
Given you can often guess from the idle data if the victim has gone away from the box it's not ideal. Even better any mess will appear on my display and get hidden when I flip it back.
The only way to stop that is to make use of the display locking facility which takes us back where we began in saying that a usable interface is going to need to lock the display.
At that point the current console owner has to choose to allow the console to be switched which can be limited effectively to physical console access and done synchronously. In turn that means to abuse it I already have physical access to the other users key so could just as easily steal it and the software security is therefore sufficient.
Alan
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