On Feb 25, 2010, at 8:08 AM, nap wrote:

No, my only point is that maybe you shouldn't tout that as definitive proof of
widespread community agreement with you. It's clearly a bogus poll at this
point.

You have a larger agenda as well that strongly affects your perception of nagios
development. I don't fault you for wanting to know these things but the approach
by you and others of trying to foment dissent in the community is off the mark.

You seem to presume that I am one side or the other of this debate; I am not. I
too recognize some of the problems being discussed but I do not yet have enough
information to guess at the severity of the them - - Ethan's absence from the lists - Yes, he's been rarely seen. Is he investing
his limited time in Nagios XI now? Is that a short-term or long-term change? Are
there other things going on in his life that preclude him from doing development
on Nagios right now? Is that a short-term or long-term thing? - What is the relationship of Nagios XI to the OSS version? Will the OSS
version become the testing ground for new things or the 'as I have time'
version? - Ongoing development of the OSS version. There's recently been talk of
starting a new branch. This is good but what's planned (highlights) and will
that branch be a focus of development or will Nagios XI? - Re: Nagios-fr.org. I don't remember seeing any demand in the emails that were
posted for them to hand over the domain to Ethan. Those emails have since been
removed from the post referenced in the email from Michael Friedrich so I can't
review them. If that particular conversation is going to continue, someone
please make them available again. I do recognize that Ethan owns the name and he
must take reasonable measures to avoid dilution or misuse of the name. Whether
the use by nagios-fr.org satisfies those reasons may be debatable by us but in
the end, it's Ethan's decision and we will either like it or not.

As far as the future of Nagios, it is Ethan's project, not ours; it always has
been and we are along for the ride. We can have hopes and dreams about what it
can become and Ethan may buy into them, or he may not. We can propose
contributions and he may accept them, or he may not. Regardless, we will all
make our own decisions about whether this is compatible with our own goals. Some
will stay, some will move on. C'est la vie.

That was the trend at the moment I was looking at it. That doesn't mean that it
always was or always will be...

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