193 messages in net.php.lists.internalsRe: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Stas Malyshev | May 8, 2011 4:40 pm | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | May 8, 2011 8:30 pm | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 9, 2011 12:40 am | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 12:49 am | |
| Stefan Marr | May 9, 2011 1:00 am | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 9, 2011 1:01 am | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 9, 2011 1:03 am | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 1:37 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 7:44 am | |
| Martin Scotta | May 9, 2011 8:50 am | |
| Richard Quadling | May 9, 2011 9:13 am | |
| Philip Olson | May 9, 2011 9:17 am | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | May 9, 2011 9:43 am | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 9:54 am | |
| Marcelo Gornstein | May 9, 2011 9:54 am | |
| Alessandro Nadalin | May 9, 2011 10:01 am | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 10:05 am | |
| Lester Caine | May 9, 2011 10:12 am | |
| Marcelo Gornstein | May 9, 2011 10:19 am | |
| Andi Gutmans | May 9, 2011 10:20 am | |
| Matthew Weier O'Phinney | May 9, 2011 10:21 am | |
| Derick Rethans | May 9, 2011 10:21 am | |
| Andi Gutmans | May 9, 2011 10:22 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 10:25 am | |
| Christopher Jones | May 9, 2011 10:27 am | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 10:30 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 10:31 am | |
| Andi Gutmans | May 9, 2011 10:32 am | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | May 9, 2011 10:38 am | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 9, 2011 10:43 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 10:44 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 10:47 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 10:50 am | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | May 9, 2011 10:53 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 11:07 am | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 11:13 am | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 11:35 am | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 9, 2011 11:39 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 11:52 am | |
| Stefan Marr | May 9, 2011 12:33 pm | |
| Lester Caine | May 9, 2011 2:41 pm | |
| dukeofgaming | May 9, 2011 3:00 pm | |
| Ilia Alshanetsky | May 9, 2011 3:09 pm | |
| Andi Gutmans | May 9, 2011 3:39 pm | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 4:26 pm | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 4:29 pm | |
| Lester Caine | May 9, 2011 5:25 pm | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 5:35 pm | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 5:35 pm | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 9, 2011 5:35 pm | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 5:55 pm | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 6:22 pm | |
| Pierrick Charron | May 9, 2011 8:03 pm | |
| Mike Willbanks | May 9, 2011 8:42 pm | |
| Pierrick Charron | May 9, 2011 8:50 pm | |
| Drak | May 9, 2011 9:09 pm | |
| Lester Caine | May 9, 2011 10:45 pm | |
| Pascal COURTOIS | May 9, 2011 11:06 pm | |
| Chad Fulton | May 10, 2011 12:01 am | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 10, 2011 12:43 am | |
| Lars Schultz | May 10, 2011 1:02 am | |
| Jordi Boggiano | May 10, 2011 1:10 am | |
| Lars Schultz | May 10, 2011 1:16 am | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | May 10, 2011 1:44 am | |
| Sebastian Bergmann | May 10, 2011 2:34 am | |
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| Subject: | Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again | |
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| From: | Marcelo Gornstein (marc...@gmail.com) | |
| Date: | May 9, 2011 9:54:44 am | |
| List: | net.php.lists.internals | |
regarding the annotations stuff: it seems the php community (in general) really wants annotations. lots of important and widely used frameworks use them (meaning that not only the plain php users have a use for this feature, but also the users of the respective frameworks, increasing the overall user number interested). i.e: doctrine, symfony2, ding, phpunit, etc, etc. we cant just ignore this fact.
also, this means that there are tons of custom annotations implementations (almost one per framework that has a use for them), and we end up duplicating code and slowing the overall performance for applications.
my question is: is php a language made for the php developers that mantain the language or for the community that uses them and contributes to it everyday?
just a thought
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf <ras...@lerdorf.com> wrote:
On 05/09/2011 07:44 AM, guil...@gmail.com wrote:
- Annotations
I already proposed a patch and none here discussed. You rather preferred to shout "PHP doesn't need Annotations" instead of discuss the patch that was proposed.
If someone doesn't agree that annotations belong in PHP why do the details of the patch matter?
PS: I think that internals mailing list should be revised with all proposed ideas and wrap them on a better plan. It seems to me that you are not interested on user's request and rather accept/implement only what the features that interest you. It's very bad for the language and very bad for all of users.
That's simply not true. But just because one group of users feel strongly about something doesn't mean it should go in. There has to be some level of curation or we end up with every feature under the sun resulting in a huge mess.
-Rasmus
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