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Eduard MoraruSep 25, 2014 2:59 am 
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Guillaume LerougeSep 25, 2014 3:36 am 
Guillaume "Louis-Marie" DelhumeauSep 25, 2014 3:39 am 
Guillaume LerougeSep 25, 2014 3:58 am 
Eduard MoraruSep 25, 2014 4:41 am 
Marius Dumitru FloreaSep 26, 2014 6:54 am 
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Guillaume LerougeSep 29, 2014 6:37 am 
Eduard MoraruOct 1, 2014 12:12 am 
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Guillaume "Louis-Marie" DelhumeauOct 1, 2014 1:59 am 
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Marius Dumitru FloreaOct 1, 2014 3:20 am 
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Subject:Re: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] New location of the "Add" menu in the new Flamingo skin
From:Eduard Moraru (enyg@gmail.com)
Date:Sep 25, 2014 4:41:17 am
List:org.xwiki.devs

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < gdel@xwiki.com> wrote:

Hi Eddy,

2014-09-25 11:59 GMT+02:00 Eduard Moraru <enyg@gmail.com>:

Hi devs,

I`m not sure if we already have a discussion started on this topic, but in my opinion, it's long overdue. I see people start being confused and questions like this [1] start to be asked.

The new location of the Add menu in Flamingo is problematic IMO for a various number of reasons: - It falsely gives the impression that it adds page-related entries (i.e. related to the current page), due to its current location (i.e. in the page content) - It conflicts with AWM`s "Add new Entry" button - from my POV, looking at the page from a far, the new location looks completely randomly selected: -- It's not on the left/top (as left-to-right language specific brains are trained to follow) -- it's not exactly at the top either -- it's not at the right -- it's not next to the type of elements it creates (i.e. next to WIKI/SPACE/PAGE) -- it basically is almost in the middle of the screen - etc. (i.e. others that don`t come right now to my mind)

Personally, I like the fact that it is located near the Edit button, even if it does not concern the current page. Because it groups the most basic and useful actions that you need when you want to contribute: EDIT, ADD.

To me, it makes sense.

I`m sorry, but that does not make sense to me. Actually I have found myself quite often almost clicking ADD when I wanted to perform an operation on the current document, like Edit or something from More Actions.

At least if we`d group actions related to the current document somehow, but in no ways is it correct from my POV to have: 1 action for the current document, 1 action *not* for the current document and then "more actions" *for the current document*. It's like an usability "roller coaster".

One not so great solution for the "roller coaster" problem would be to have the Add button first in the list. At least the focus would shift only once.

Thanks, Eduard

I`d like to open a discussion on this, since it's quite an important aspect of the UI and, due to it's shiny green color (which I like :)), it`s hard to miss.

Is it just me who's resistant to change, or do others see a problem here with this as well?

Thanks, Eduard

---------- [1] http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/rqcxryksa2ckjhpm