9 messages in net.nether.puck.cisco-nsp[c-nsp] Re: Interfacing between VRF a...
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Subject:[c-nsp] Re: Interfacing between VRF and global across interface in one routerActions...
From:David Barak (theg@yahoo.com)
Date:Jan 18, 2005 11:41:28 am
List:net.nether.puck.cisco-nsp

--- Joe Maimon <jmaimon at ttec.com> wrote:

David Barak wrote:

--- Joe Maimon <jmaimon at ttec.com> wrote:

Hello Rodney,

At first cut, I am trying to effect a seperation between the interfaces which need (overload)natting done and the ones that dont. Exactly what that will buy me in terms of nat problems, performance or logical correctness I am not quite certain yet.

As is currently, If it turn nat on for some interfaces on the router, I have to turn it on for all so that others dont see rfc1918 that they would not be expecting. Such is only proper.

Why nat? Well some customers like to link up a few of their sites with the cheapest CPE possible which supports the simplest network possible.

A Linksys router is $40, and it runs NAT. I can't really imagine that that's a serious cost barrier for CPE.

In these case the customers do not want to run nat because they want to have multiple sites communicate with eachother with no fuss or muss, on their private IP space, be firewalled from everyone else and have internet access as well.

Do you see the irony of "be firewalled from everyone else" and "have Internet access as well" in the same product?

You will say, have the customer do ipsec......maybe for new ones. Marketing likes to sell this as a product. IOW managed wan/internet services.

Not necessarily IPSec, although that's a good idea if they're serious about security. Rather, I would still say that NAT belongs on CPE, not on a provider device.

How about this:

build the customers a 2547bis network, and make one of the spokes the inside address of the firewall segment?