9 messages in net.sourceforge.lists.courier-usersRe: [courier-users] RBL Check - When?
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Gordan BobicOct 20, 2007 12:45 pm 
Sam VarshavchikOct 20, 2007 1:03 pm 
Gordon MessmerOct 20, 2007 1:44 pm 
Gordan BobicOct 20, 2007 4:03 pm 
Leigh S. Jones, KR6XOct 20, 2007 4:56 pm 
Gordan BobicOct 20, 2007 5:26 pm 
Leigh S. Jones, KR6XOct 20, 2007 5:34 pm 
Gordan BobicOct 20, 2007 5:50 pm 
Alessandro VeselyOct 21, 2007 11:11 pm 
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Subject:Re: [courier-users] RBL Check - When?Actions...
From:Gordan Bobic (gor@bobich.net)
Date:Oct 20, 2007 5:50:59 pm
List:net.sourceforge.lists.courier-users

Leigh S. Jones, KR6X wrote:

kr@kr6x.com wrote:

No one has mentioned that it's necessary to wait until the possible spammer identifies his target to know whether the target has him whitelisted.

Gordan wrote:

Whitelists aren't really practicaly on big setups. You need to block a lot before they even get as far as talking TCP. If you can manage a decent job with that, RBLs can prune enough of what's left for spamassassin and virus scanners to be able to cope with the minute amount of mail that is actually deliverable. It is not all that uncommon to see the spam:ham ratio of around 250:1. When you have a system handling mail for half a million domains, well, you get the idea.

Whitelists aren't really practicaly on big setups handling mail for half a million domains. Ahhh, but nonetheless they are a part of the Courier algorithm...

I'm not saying the idea is bad. I am saying that when your server is receiving the best part of a million emails per hour, most of which is spam, you cannot necessarily afford to pick up the connection, see who it's for, check the white list for the recipient if they are valid, and the selectively let the mail through to be processed by, e.g. content based scanning for spam and virii, and then maybe deliver it to the final destination. There are good ways of separating wheat from the chaff without incurring any false positives before you ever pick up a TCP connection. But this is rapidly becoming a conversation OT for this list...

Gordan