7 messages in org.w3.public-svg-wgname of 'filter' property and corresp...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Cameron McCormack | Nov 15, 2008 4:12 pm | |
| Doug Schepers | Nov 16, 2008 5:17 pm | |
| Cameron McCormack | Nov 16, 2008 5:24 pm | |
| Maciej Stachowiak | Nov 16, 2008 5:59 pm | |
| Doug Schepers | Nov 16, 2008 7:51 pm | |
| Maciej Stachowiak | Nov 16, 2008 10:05 pm | |
| Chris Lilley | Nov 17, 2008 6:34 am |
| Subject: | name of 'filter' property and corresponding CSSStyleDeclaration property | |
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| From: | Cameron McCormack (ca...@mcc.id.au) | |
| Date: | Nov 15, 2008 4:12:54 pm | |
| List: | org.w3.public-svg-wg | |
Another point of conflict with “the rest of the web” that you’re all probably aware of, but which could be considered again given our impending work on SVG Core 2.0 (or whatever name will be used).
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From: Maciej Stachowiak <mj...@apple.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:34:05 -0800 To: David-Sarah Hopwood <davi...@industrial-designers.co.uk> Cc: es3....@mozilla.org, es-d...@mozilla.org Subject: Re: Should host objects be able to have [[Class]] "Function", "Array" etc.?
On Nov 14, 2008, at 11:38 PM, David-Sarah Hopwood wrote:
Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
Specifically, we expose a "filter" property on CSSStyleDeclaration, in support of the SVG filter CSS property. However, many sites test for "filter" to detect support for MSIE's proprietary "filter" property, which sadly has the same name but completely incompatible syntax. Thus, we return this kind of magical undetectable string so if tests don't detect us as IE.
If "many" sites are relying on the proprietary IE semantics, then it's a bug in the CSSStyleDeclaration API that it has incompatible semantics. Magical oddball strings won't fix this problem -- the correct long-term fix is to rename the SVG 'filter' property so that it doesn't clash with something that is incompatible and already widely used.
Magic oddball strings fixed the sites that were actually broken. We did not do this just for fun, we ran into actual sites that had this problem. We don't know of sites that have a problem with the current behavior.
I agree with you that the SVG 'filter' property should be renamed. This has been raised many times with the SVG Working Group and they did not agree. In any case I am not asking for advice on our compatibility strategy, just explaining it. If you'd like, I would be happy to raise it with the SVG WG yet again, or you are welcome to do so yourself.
Regards, Maciej
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