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Subject:Re: [Bf-committers] "Security" gets in the way
From:Benjamin Tolputt (btol@internode.on.net)
Date:Apr 29, 2010 4:41:12 pm
List:org.blender.bf-committers

Raul Fernandez Hernandez wrote:

Don't get me wrong, I have no intention of discrimination , I think the fact that english is not my way of thinking could lead to this. I was speaking for myself , splitting in pro-security and the rest is very natural when a discussion arise, is nothing bad, and when I was referring to "the rest of us could continue improving blender" I didn't mean that working in security was not improving blender, I mean: "the rest of us could continue working in their projects in blender".

OK, I apologise for misinterpreting you. The lack of clarity as to what will or will not be accepted by core development perhaps makes me read too much into the posts by main developers :)

I think a working patch or prototype is way better than a long discussion that sometimes get out of its path, nothing more.

The issue I have is that I (or someone else) could put ALOT of work into fixing this without it being accepted into core because they are not interested in what it takes. Security is not like a new operator or constraint. Like the UI refactor - it will affect almost everything in Blender in some way. The amount of work needed even for a basic prototype is substantial.

To use a recent example, how do you think a developer would have felt if they put together the Blender 2.5 UI refactor prototype if they knew Ton was against it? I know I wouldn't have bothered. Not because I don't think it is a great feature, but by the very fact it touches almost everything (like security will); it would be impossible to keep up with Blender development through patching a local installation.