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| Subject: | Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Short syntax for array literals [...] | Actions... |
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| From: | Sebastian Deutsch (seba...@9elements.com) | |
| Date: | May 29, 2008 9:13:46 am | |
| List: | net.php.lists.internals | |
I think a public voting system is not a good thing (though the idea appealed me in the first place) - but I was convinced that it would lead to vote without discussion.
For "listening to the user base" I originally had a headline "Discussion on the Web" were I refered to some blog posts covering that topic. Actually someone removed it by "Discussion on the List".
Jonathan Bond-Caron schrieb:
It's a big +1 for me and this sums it up
PHP is about building on the knowledge and experience of the typical target user. This target user changes slowly as we all get older and the industry we are in changes and we need to recognize that and adapt the language appropriately. What is appropriate is of course a really hard call which is what this is all about.
My first concern about the [] debate is no one is really asking what the users want? Where did the [] requirement or proposal come from? There's no doubt in my mind that a [] synthax is something most users would want. The similar array declaration to javascript also further reinforces the use of PHP for web based programming.
Finally, having a public voting system would definitely help gain more insight as to what users want.
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