atom feed24 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-questionsRe: APOLOGIES GIVEN TO ALL
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xavian anderson macphersonOct 2, 2000 2:13 pm 
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pstapleyOct 2, 2000 3:04 pm 
JohnOct 2, 2000 3:09 pm 
Chris WasserOct 2, 2000 3:19 pm 
xavian anderson macphersonOct 2, 2000 3:47 pm 
xavian anderson macphersonOct 2, 2000 6:12 pm 
BWS - OffwhiteOct 2, 2000 6:18 pm 
xavian anderson macphersonOct 2, 2000 6:28 pm 
Greg LeheyOct 2, 2000 6:59 pm 
Greg LeheyOct 2, 2000 7:01 pm 
Greg LeheyOct 2, 2000 7:13 pm 
xavian anderson macphersonOct 2, 2000 7:47 pm 
Christopher RuedOct 2, 2000 8:13 pm 
William MelansonOct 3, 2000 7:32 am 
xavian anderson macphersonOct 3, 2000 1:16 pm 
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Jonathan LemonOct 3, 2000 2:57 pm 
Christopher RuedOct 3, 2000 3:03 pm 
Greg LeheyOct 3, 2000 5:37 pm 
Giorgos KeramidasOct 3, 2000 7:54 pm 
Chris DillonOct 4, 2000 8:01 am 
Subject:Re: APOLOGIES GIVEN TO ALL
From:Chris Wasser (cwas@v-wave.com)
Date:Oct 2, 2000 3:19:56 pm
List:org.freebsd.freebsd-questions

On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 02:52:05PM -0700, xavian anderson macpherson wrote:

how do you consider me to have been yelling? I APOPLOGIZED. i am fully aware of the kld for vinum. but you still have to define it. i just want to know if this can be or is done during installation?

It's quite apparent you haven't been online for any extended period of time.
Phrases done in capitals are considered yelling which most people will interpret as an antagonistic approach and will treat you
accordingly.

The biggest part to using FreeBSD effectively is research. This isn't Microsoft
Windows or Linux, here you have to work for results, not run some configuration wizard. There are mailing list archives
online at www.freebsd.org which you can search for others who have run across your problem (and more then likely, answered) or you
can take the time to read manpages. There are also quite a few FreeBSD support websites such as www.freebsdzine.org which has
plenty of tutorials and I know for a fact it has one on vinum.

If this sounds like too much work for you, perhaps you should go back to using
Linux or some other operating system which caters to the lazy.

Try helping yourself first before asking others for help, anything and
everything you want to do in FreeBSD is documented somewhere, all you have to do is look. If necessary, go buy Greg's excellent The
Complete FreeBSD which for the most part does all the hand-holding you'll need, and it's effective I know, I've given the book
to my clients who lived in a double-click world and can now use FreeBSD well enough to get their jobs done which is a
major accomplishment considering these are the kind of people who couldn't figure out drag and drop.

I tend to get a little irked when I see people who expect everything to be done
for them who haven't even BOTHERED to research the problem (and you're certainly not the first one to do this) themselves
before demanding support from other people who devote thousands of man-hours towards producing the excellent product that
FreeBSD is, if you want end-user support, I'm sure Microsoft is more then willing to oblidge you. The information is all there, go
do some digging.

Anyways, just my two cents worth.

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