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| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 15, 2009 8:52 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 16, 2009 1:24 am | |
| ydeg...@free.fr | Feb 16, 2009 8:32 am | |
| Loic Kessous | Feb 16, 2009 9:39 am | |
| cyrille henry | Feb 16, 2009 9:52 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 16, 2009 9:57 am | |
| ydeg...@free.fr | Feb 16, 2009 10:07 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 16, 2009 11:40 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 16, 2009 11:59 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 16, 2009 12:01 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 16, 2009 1:28 pm | |
| Matt Barber | Feb 16, 2009 1:32 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 16, 2009 1:45 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 16, 2009 1:57 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 16, 2009 2:04 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 16, 2009 2:52 pm | |
| ydeg...@free.fr | Feb 16, 2009 7:48 pm | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 16, 2009 8:38 pm | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 16, 2009 9:03 pm | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 16, 2009 9:04 pm | |
| Matt Barber | Feb 16, 2009 9:36 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 16, 2009 10:10 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 16, 2009 10:24 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 16, 2009 10:29 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 16, 2009 11:20 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 16, 2009 11:25 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 16, 2009 11:28 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 16, 2009 11:28 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 16, 2009 11:36 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 17, 2009 12:36 am | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 17, 2009 12:44 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 17, 2009 1:06 am | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 17, 2009 1:11 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 17, 2009 1:47 am | |
| Loic Kessous | Feb 17, 2009 1:48 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 17, 2009 1:52 am | |
| marius schebella | Feb 17, 2009 2:24 am | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 17, 2009 4:27 am | |
| dmotd | Feb 17, 2009 8:14 am | |
| Matt Barber | Feb 17, 2009 8:17 am | |
| Matt Barber | Feb 17, 2009 9:01 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 17, 2009 10:31 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 17, 2009 10:33 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 17, 2009 10:37 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 17, 2009 10:42 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 17, 2009 10:48 am | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 17, 2009 10:59 am | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 17, 2009 11:08 am | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 17, 2009 11:13 am | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 17, 2009 12:00 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 17, 2009 12:05 pm | |
| Steffen Juul | Feb 17, 2009 12:17 pm | |
| Steffen Juul | Feb 17, 2009 12:19 pm | |
| Steffen Juul | Feb 17, 2009 12:25 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 17, 2009 12:59 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 17, 2009 1:02 pm | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Feb 17, 2009 1:19 pm | |
| marius schebella | Feb 17, 2009 2:29 pm | |
| marius schebella | Feb 17, 2009 2:53 pm | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 18, 2009 12:20 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 18, 2009 12:29 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 18, 2009 12:38 am | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 18, 2009 1:49 am | .pd, .png |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 18, 2009 1:52 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 18, 2009 2:09 am | |
| Luke Iannini | Feb 18, 2009 2:10 am | |
| Martin Peach | Feb 18, 2009 5:37 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 18, 2009 6:00 am | |
| Martin Peach | Feb 18, 2009 6:09 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 18, 2009 6:21 am | |
| Andy Farnell | Feb 18, 2009 7:02 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 18, 2009 9:00 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 18, 2009 9:01 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 18, 2009 9:35 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 18, 2009 9:39 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 18, 2009 9:59 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 18, 2009 10:28 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Feb 18, 2009 10:30 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Feb 18, 2009 10:42 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Feb 18, 2009 10:55 am | |
| Andy Farnell | Feb 18, 2009 10:56 am | |
| Andy Farnell | Feb 18, 2009 10:58 am | |
| cyrille henry | Feb 18, 2009 11:01 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 18, 2009 11:19 am | |
| cyrille henry | Feb 18, 2009 11:28 am | |
| cyrille henry | Feb 18, 2009 11:35 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Feb 18, 2009 11:57 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 18, 2009 12:06 pm | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 18, 2009 12:07 pm | |
| Matt Barber | Feb 18, 2009 12:17 pm | |
| Martin Peach | Feb 18, 2009 1:39 pm | |
| Andy Farnell | Feb 18, 2009 1:46 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 18, 2009 3:39 pm | |
| 68 later messages | ||
| Subject: | Re: [PD-dev] stripping down Pd-extended's default libs | |
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| From: | Hans-Christoph Steiner (ha...@eds.org) | |
| Date: | Feb 17, 2009 10:33:04 am | |
| List: | at.iem.pd-dev | |
On Feb 16, 2009, at 10:49 PM, ydeg...@free.fr wrote:
ola,
To be clear, the libraries will all still be included in the package, they
just won't be loaded by default. That means you'll have load them as part of the patch using either [declare] or [import], or using namespace prefixes like [cyclone/prepend]. This puts us further towards the goal of having all of the patch settings stored in the patch itself, making it more likely to work on more computers.
computers? we speak of toasters here... i'm really annoyed that you speak from you dev point of view and don't see how many people will ask themselves : where the heck is that object?? not even having a chance to discover it by accident... and accidents make the greatest stories...
more seriously, in your 'scientific' language, it's just sucks... ( that's real science )
and you don't explain why you turned unauthorized into a lib, there was absolutely no reason for that
and also i see no progress in pd since 2 years, until it will get a real threaded gui and soundfile loader ( patches i did in 2002 ), well hey? i totally disagree with darwin, evolution is bad
If the language is an impediment, I would love to hear suggestions for how to improve it. The last thing I want to do if force Pd into the land of computer science. "namespace" seems like a pretty clear name to me, but I am not married to it.
.hc
xiaoo, sevy
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