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Subject:RE: putting stupid search engine urls back
From:AMP Admin (adm@ampprod.com)
Date:Aug 29, 2009 4:51:39 pm
List:ru.sysoev.nginx

Hi again Gabriel,

Thank you for your reply.

I think SEF URL's are debatable. The more research I do the more I find them unnecessary. It also makes it difficult for growth. What if you change your cms, forum or whatever and the dynamic content is generated differently? All of your "static lookalike" links are no longer valid. I also believe this to be true with major revisions of current cms, forums and other. If they do a complete code rewrite as many of them claim with major revisions then that might also affect urls too. Eventually you have more lines of rewrites and garbage in your config than anything else which is not the intended use. It may not strain the server but every little bit of helps and if someone thinks they can just let that go then where does it stop?

Anyway, here's an old article that's worth a read in regards to the great sef debate. http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2005/4/emw232456.htm

Finally, that brings me back to my original question... Finally, that brings me to my original question... How can I turn: /anyone-doing-late-ridei-t19640.html

into: /showthread.php?t=19640

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-----Original Message----- From: owne@sysoev.ru [mailto:owne@sysoev.ru] On Behalf Of Gabriel Ramuglia Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 4:10 PM To: ngi@sysoev.ru Subject: Re: putting stupid search engine urls back

You really shouldn't have to use redirects, I would think. A rewrite (mod rewrite in apache, I think nginx supports similar), will allow people to directly access the friendly urls while your application internally receives a request for the ?something=something urls. If rewrites are using up so much cpu that you'd rather not have search engine traffic than have to take the cpu hit to rewrite urls.... something is seriously wrong.

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 8:27 AM, AMP Admin<adm@ampprod.com> wrote:

It's just that it seems to put a strain on the server to redirect everything.  Maybe I'm doing it wrong.  Also, when people submit content to bookmarks sometimes they get a redirect error.  It says something like 'this page redirects to' and then it won't bookmark.

If I can make a nice clean sef that doesn't cause problems like that then I would love to use it.

Also, if we move to a new platform a year or two down the line then those links woud need another redirect if the new system uses a different url. Does that make sense?

-----Original Message----- From: owne@sysoev.ru [mailto:owne@sysoev.ru] On Behalf Of Gabriel Ramuglia Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 12:15 AM To: ngi@sysoev.ru Subject: Re: putting stupid search engine urls back

If you do that, you're wasting SEO potential. If nothing else, the search engines take into account textual content in your urls when considering the topicality of the page. Without those keywords in the url, you'll have a harder time ranking for the relevant topics of your site.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Ilan Berkner<iber@gmail.com> wrote:

Perhaps not the appropriate forum... but why / where did you hear that it was "stupid" to do / use SEF?

Thanks

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:36 AM, AMP Admin <adm@ampprod.com> wrote:

A few years we went along with the buzz about writing search engine friendly urls.  Well now I think that’s stupid and believe the site will get crawled regardless.

Anyway, there’s bots and ppl still looking for the sef urls so I need to change them back.

How can I make:

/anyone-doing-late-ridei-t19640.html

into:

/showthread.php?t=19640