76 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-stableRe: after the release ...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/extended software support | Mar 19, 1998 3:57 pm | |
| Daniel O'Callaghan | Mar 19, 1998 4:15 pm | |
| Eivind Eklund | Mar 20, 1998 1:49 am | |
| Eivind Eklund | Mar 20, 1998 1:52 am | |
| Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/extended software support | Mar 20, 1998 5:51 am | |
| ni...@iii.co.uk | Mar 20, 1998 6:17 am | |
| Eivind Eklund | Mar 20, 1998 7:47 am | |
| Mike Smith | Mar 20, 1998 8:02 am | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Mar 20, 1998 8:22 am | |
| Mike Smith | Mar 20, 1998 8:51 am | |
| Brian Beattie | Mar 20, 1998 8:54 am | |
| Ted Spradley | Mar 20, 1998 9:23 am | |
| Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC | Mar 20, 1998 9:40 am | |
| A. Karl Heller | Mar 20, 1998 10:04 am | |
| Matthew D. Fuller | Mar 20, 1998 10:31 am | |
| Greg Shenaut | Mar 20, 1998 11:00 am | |
| Brian Beattie | Mar 20, 1998 12:45 pm | |
| Ted Spradley | Mar 20, 1998 1:08 pm | |
| Derek Flowers | Mar 20, 1998 1:10 pm | |
| Matthew D. Fuller | Mar 20, 1998 1:18 pm | |
| melanie b | Mar 20, 1998 1:55 pm | |
| Jonathan M. Bresler | Mar 20, 1998 2:27 pm | |
| Daniel O'Callaghan | Mar 20, 1998 2:30 pm | |
| Daniel O'Callaghan | Mar 20, 1998 2:41 pm | |
| Daniel O'Callaghan | Mar 20, 1998 2:47 pm | |
| Ted Spradley | Mar 20, 1998 3:02 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Mar 20, 1998 3:12 pm | |
| Jonathan M. Bresler | Mar 20, 1998 3:13 pm | |
| Eivind Eklund | Mar 20, 1998 3:17 pm | |
| Chris Faehl | Mar 20, 1998 3:47 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Mar 20, 1998 3:59 pm | |
| Chad R. Larson | Mar 20, 1998 4:38 pm | |
| Robert Watson | Mar 20, 1998 5:36 pm | |
| Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC | Mar 20, 1998 5:44 pm | |
| Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC | Mar 20, 1998 5:52 pm | |
| Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC | Mar 20, 1998 5:58 pm | |
| Derek Flowers | Mar 20, 1998 6:22 pm | |
| Robert Watson | Mar 20, 1998 6:33 pm | |
| Eivind Eklund | Mar 20, 1998 6:50 pm | |
| Evan Champion | Mar 20, 1998 7:02 pm | |
| Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/extended software support | Mar 20, 1998 10:25 pm | |
| Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group | Mar 20, 1998 11:48 pm | |
| Nate Williams | Mar 21, 1998 3:44 am | |
| Nate Williams | Mar 21, 1998 3:45 am | |
| Eivind Eklund | Mar 21, 1998 6:47 am | |
| Derek Flowers | Mar 21, 1998 10:28 am | |
| allen campbell | Mar 21, 1998 12:39 pm | |
| Travis Mikalson | Mar 21, 1998 12:56 pm | |
| Matt Behrens | Mar 21, 1998 2:34 pm | |
| Jonathan M. Bresler | Mar 21, 1998 5:16 pm | |
| Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/extended software support | Mar 21, 1998 8:33 pm | |
| Derek Flowers | Mar 22, 1998 12:38 am | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Mar 22, 1998 7:38 am | |
| Robert Watson | Mar 22, 1998 9:24 am | |
| Derek Flowers | Mar 22, 1998 10:12 am | |
| Derek Flowers | Mar 22, 1998 12:23 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Mar 22, 1998 2:45 pm | |
| Derek Flowers | Mar 22, 1998 4:16 pm | |
| Daniel O'Connor | Mar 22, 1998 4:30 pm | |
| Daniel O'Connor | Mar 22, 1998 5:00 pm | |
| Daniel O'Callaghan | Mar 22, 1998 10:34 pm | |
| Greg Shenaut | Mar 22, 1998 10:56 pm | |
| Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group | Mar 23, 1998 7:00 am | |
| Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group | Mar 23, 1998 7:17 am | |
| Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC | Mar 23, 1998 9:20 am | |
| David Wolfskill | Mar 23, 1998 9:51 am | |
| Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group | Mar 23, 1998 11:41 am | |
| Derek Flowers | Mar 23, 1998 12:46 pm | |
| Derek Flowers | Mar 23, 1998 12:51 pm | |
| Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC | Mar 23, 1998 2:09 pm | |
| Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group | Mar 23, 1998 2:35 pm | |
| Eivind Eklund | Mar 23, 1998 2:36 pm | |
| Daniel O'Connor | Mar 23, 1998 8:43 pm | |
| Derek Flowers | Mar 23, 1998 9:08 pm | |
| Eivind Eklund | Mar 24, 1998 7:58 am | |
| Wes Peters | Mar 24, 1998 9:55 pm |
| Subject: | Re: after the release ... | |
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| From: | Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC (soft...@xmission.com) | |
| Date: | Mar 20, 1998 5:52:57 pm | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-stable | |
Daniel O'Callaghan opined:
The pkg system can be used here. pkgs record their own installation event, they have pre and post installation scripts which can display docs etc.
Yeah, I like this approach too. Figure out how to handle kernel patches and you've got it solved. One approach might be to make kernel object files mandatory, then you can at least re-link a new kernel, similar to the SunOS distribution.
Patches with dependencies could check for those.
pkg_add already handles dependency checking and installation.
Who would develop the patches? I would say that given a reasonably well-defined set of conventions, the developer should be able to create a patch corresponding to whatever changes he or she developed with very little extra work.
So what we want is a Makefile which will make an update patch, so the committer can create this new patch. We might end up with a lot of these, though. Perhaps it would be better to have a patchmeister (did I hear you volunteer, Drew? :-)) who could collect the patch-package creation requests and release an upgrade package every so often.
Or perhaps we'll just have to elect a 'Stable Collector' whose job is it create patches once they've been fully tested and OK'd by the users who cvsup -STABLE. This would lead to a smaller and more "stable" set of patches (hopefully). Richard Wackerbarth provided a service philosophically similar to this for the 2.1-STABLE community in the past.
What about security? This is an *excellent* point. It's a bit risky
PGP signature.
This isn't a bad idea for the package utility in general. We could make it complain about packages with no signature, and refuse to install packages whose signature doesn't match?
-- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"
Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr soft...@xmission.com
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