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Chiusano JosephApr 6, 2004 6:15 am 
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Yunker, JohnApr 6, 2004 8:01 am 
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Steve Ross-TalbotApr 6, 2004 8:10 am 
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Duane NickullApr 6, 2004 8:26 am 
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Chiusano JosephApr 6, 2004 8:45 am 
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Dale MobergApr 6, 2004 6:58 pm 
Duane NickullApr 7, 2004 8:56 am 
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David RR WebberApr 7, 2004 11:41 am 
Chiusano JosephJun 7, 2004 10:41 am 
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Steve Ross-TalbotJun 7, 2004 10:59 am 
David RR WebberJun 7, 2004 11:29 am 
Subject:Re: [ebsoa] Process-Oriented Architectures (POA)
From:David RR Webber (dav@drrw.info)
Date:Jun 7, 2004 11:29:45 am
List:org.oasis-open.lists.ebsoa

Steve,

What is interesting is that this does appear to be an implementation of the OASIS BCM Linking and Switching choice points system.

Of course getting an open XML based API is another challenge,

DW

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Ross-Talbot" <ste@enigmatec.net> To: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiu@bah.com> Cc: "ebSOA" <ebs@lists.oasis-open.org>; "Monica J. Martin" <moni@sun.com>; "David RR Webber" <dav@drrw.info> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Process-Oriented Architectures (POA)

Interestingly POM (Process Oriented Middleware) is a take on POA. An example of this would be:

http://www.enigmatec.net/Products/RIF%20Middleware.html

Now you can see why I am interested in this space.

Cheers

Steve T On Jun 7, 2004, at 7:00 PM, Chiusano Joseph wrote:

That would be Booz Allen Hamilton. ;) :P

David RR Webber wrote:

Joe,

I'm not sure - sometimes this is subliminal!

I have dim recollection of see something Gartnerish that mentioned POA back last month - and I ranted about the need of analysts to invent new acronyms every six months or so - to keep charging their clients to explain it to them....

Not that I'd think that of BAH of course ; -)

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiu@bah.com> To: "ebSOA" <ebs@lists.oasis-open.org>; "Monica J. Martin" <moni@sun.com> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [ebsoa] Process-Oriented Architectures (POA)

Someone outside our TC must have been reading our archives for this thread[1] :)

"POA: Building SOA from the Ground Up": [1] http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45098&DE=1

I know that our concentration is to be service-oriented architectures, but at the same time I'm thinking about what will lie beyond (so that we can best prepare). A term popped into my head on the way home yesterday (the DC Beltway apparatentely inspires me): Process-Oriented Architecture, or "POA".

Has anyone heard this term used before? I Google'd it and found few hits, all of which seemed to be individual (rather than corporate) references.

As you can tell from the term, just as SOAs enable (involve, pick your favorite word here) the use of shared services, POAs will extend SOAs to enable the use of shared Web Services-based processes that are based on shared Web Services that are defined within SOAs, working in concert with each other. So for a US federal application (my primary client), this could mean a set of shared Web Services-based business processes for federal agencies, in a flexible, agile, process environment.

Does this concept resound with anyone?