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31 messages in net.nether.puck.cisco-nsp[c-nsp] autonegotiating hub was: Defe...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Clinton Work | Jan 14, 2005 5:25 pm | |
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| Mikael Abrahamsson | Jan 15, 2005 3:03 am | |
| Ted Mittelstaedt | Jan 15, 2005 3:55 am | |
| Mikael Abrahamsson | Jan 15, 2005 4:05 am | |
| Chris Cappuccio | Jan 15, 2005 4:11 am | |
| Mikael Abrahamsson | Jan 15, 2005 4:16 am | |
| lee....@census.gov | Jan 15, 2005 7:23 am | |
| Mikael Abrahamsson | Jan 15, 2005 8:14 am | |
| Mike | Jan 15, 2005 9:25 am | |
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| Subject: | [c-nsp] autonegotiating hub was: Deferred packets on 295010/full interface | Actions... |
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| From: | Ted Mittelstaedt (te...@toybox.placo.com) | |
| Date: | Jan 15, 2005 11:31:05 am | |
| List: | net.nether.puck.cisco-nsp | |
-----Original Message----- From: cisc...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisc...@puck.nether.net]On Behalf Of Mikael Abrahamsson Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 5:15 AM To: lee....@census.gov Cc: cisc...@puck.nether.net Subject: RE: [c-nsp] autonegotiating hub was: Deferred packets on 295010/full interface
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 lee....@census.gov wrote:
Cheap combination of both - they act like there's an internal 2 port switch for switching traffic between the 10Mb hub ports and the 100Mb hub ports.
But the author referred to them as being "full duplex":
autonegotiating or not and often assumed autonegotiating hubs really wern't autonegotiating and would go to half duplex. Meanwhile the hub would assume the Tlan card was full duplex and setup for it.
For me a hub cannot be full duplex, whatever speed. A hub is by definition a half duplex device, even if it's dual speed.
Your correct, I meant switch. Specifically in this case the 3com Switch 3300.
I will note one thing however. Year ago, gasoline was sold as "Regular" and "Regular Unleaded" Then, leaded gasoline was made illegal. Today, gasoline is sold as "Regular" or "Premium" I have to ask, do you still ask for Regular Unleaded when you pull up to the pump? Do you still criticize people for not asking for "Regular Unleaded" instead of "Regular" when they buy gas? It must really grate on you every time you pull into a gas station, eh? ;-)
Have you looked at the shelves of your local computer store recently? Very few real honest-to-God hubs remain, in many places it's only switches. In another 5 years the half-duplex standard 10BaseT and 100BaseT hub will be extinct - not even available by special order. At that time, people will use the term hub for switches, and I predict the term switch will start to fall out of general usage, same as "regular unleaded" gas did.
It is a testiment to this already happening that most people here knew what I meant, even with the incorrect term used. It won't be much longer before the incorrect term will become the correct term. I hope you can survive this. ;-)
Ted







