15 messages in net.sourceforge.lists.courier-usersRe: [courier-users] Re: Greylisting?
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Lloyd ZusmanNov 11, 2005 7:10 pm 
Jay LeeNov 11, 2005 10:28 pm 
Lloyd ZusmanNov 12, 2005 7:25 am 
Mike HorwathNov 12, 2005 10:39 am 
Mike HorwathNov 12, 2005 10:41 am 
Oliver JusingerNov 12, 2005 11:03 am 
Mike HorwathNov 12, 2005 11:28 am 
Oliver JusingerNov 15, 2005 2:33 am 
Steve JacobsonNov 15, 2005 10:00 am 
Mike HorwathNov 15, 2005 10:02 am 
Mark BucciarelliNov 15, 2005 12:07 pm 
Lloyd ZusmanNov 15, 2005 1:50 pm 
Jerry AmundsonNov 16, 2005 9:39 am 
Jay LeeNov 16, 2005 9:46 am 
Mark BucciarelliNov 17, 2005 8:42 am 
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Subject:Re: [courier-users] Re: Greylisting?Actions...
From:Steve Jacobson (ste@sourcelabs.com)
Date:Nov 15, 2005 10:00:38 am
List:net.sourceforge.lists.courier-users

So, does anyone have a good greylisting plugin for Courier already developed and ready to share?

Thanks!

-steve j

Mike Horwath wrote:

On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 10:19:37AM -0500, Lloyd Zusman wrote:

Thank you. These are good points. As for adding an administrative burden, if I understand greylisting correctly, the delay will only be incurred for first-time senders. Once an email is resent within a certain time window, the sender is remembered, and no more delaying takes place for his or her subsequent incoming messages.

But it only happens *once* for the triplet.

Use light greylisting (based on /24).

As for your second concern, I agree: spammers can work around this easily.

But they haven't after 2 years and for reasons I mentioned.

And I have thought of yet another concern: in order to remember those senders who have resent their message within the proper time window, an ever-growing database of addresses needs to be maintained. No entries could ever be removed from this list, if previously encountered senders are to be allowed to avoid the greylisting delay.

For a > 20K 'email address' system, the database (with indexes) is 2.9GB in size running on a 14 day sliding window.

Of course, this resource of perpetually increasing size could be avoided if every incoming message is subject to a greylisting delay, but that gets us back to the case where legitimate users are penalized with a delay.

Bah, this is not a real concern.

All this is food for thought, and I now want to reflect on this more before jumping into the greylisting world.

Make the leap.