11 messages in org.apache.legal-discussRe: Creative Commons Attribution License
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sebbMay 28, 2008 7:34 am 
Henri YandellMay 28, 2008 8:34 am 
Craig L RussellMay 28, 2008 1:37 pm 
Sam RubyMay 28, 2008 5:08 pm 
Henri YandellMay 28, 2008 5:44 pm 
Gilles ScokartMay 29, 2008 12:15 am 
Henri YandellMay 29, 2008 12:46 am 
Stefano BagnaraMay 29, 2008 12:58 am 
sebbJun 1, 2008 9:32 am 
Henri YandellJun 13, 2008 2:37 am 
Henri YandellJun 15, 2008 5:32 pm 
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Subject:Re: Creative Commons Attribution LicenseActions...
From:Henri Yandell (bay@apache.org)
Date:May 28, 2008 5:44:49 pm
List:org.apache.legal-discuss

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Sam Ruby <rub@intertwingly.net> wrote:

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Craig L Russell <Crai@sun.com> wrote:

I don't have any problem with depending on a CC licensed artifact, but I'm troubled by the notion that an artifact would be installed into a Maven repository by "not the author".

I, on the other hand, have zero problems with that.

The very purpose of creating an open source or creative commons license is to remove the very need to obtain permission for a select set of uses. In fact I have personally heard Joi Ito (current CEO of Creative Commons) argue very eloquently AGAINST the idea that people should either seek, or grant, permissions to works that are already licensed under a creative commons license. He cites the Chicago Manual of Style:

"The act of seeking permission establishes that the author feels permission is needed, and the tacit admission may be damaging to the author's cause."

Think about it. You write open source code. An individual, a group, or a company is free to pick up that code and distribute it to his/her/their users. In general, do they need to seek your permission before they do so? No.

Would it be possible for you to contact the owner and ask if they would publish it to a Maven repo themselves?

I am confident that I have written code that exists in a Maven repository that I haven't put there. And while I may be the original author of that code, I am not the "owner".

Agreed. I'm pissed when they make releases for me rather than using my (our) releases, but no problem with it going in there.

Anyway - the Maven repository guys can decide whether they want the original author to hand it in or not. I don't think we need to worry about it as there's nothing wrong with redistributing this.

Hen