|Subject:||Re: JDK2 binary update|
|From:||Bill Huey (bil...@gnuppy.monkey.org)|
|Date:||Apr 5, 2001 5:50:31 am|
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 03:03:13PM +0300, Panagiotis Astithas wrote:
I was wondering, is there any chance that Windriver could be beneficial for us at this point? If they can succeed at helping us where BSDi obviously failed, then I think everyone would consider the recent acquisition a huge step forward.
Assuming that your claim is true and that really did BSDi fail at helping FreeBSD, it's because the FreeBSD community failed to provide the leadership that's neccesary to push it your own project forward, not the other way around. It's not directly the fault of upper management here and is generally well known (freaking obvious in our group) what's going on across the corporate pond.
That's all I'll say about the matter for now.
It's been a pretty scary ride so far to get called up by my manager to fly to Minnesota under false pretenses (basic engineering confernce) only to and have this entire aquisition dumped into your lap.
WindRiver is a very different culture with the typically crap you experience from large corporations. I'm not sure what to think of it so far, but I can definitely say this about my experiences with the current BSDi... I've *never* been talked down to by any of the core engineers here which is a profound indication of how genuinely sincere these folks are as human beings. You basically can't run a business as financially tight as BSDi without having this kind of mutual respect.
It's pretty different than the stuff you get directly from the OSD folks and a number of FreeBSD engineers that basically are a bunch of teenage idiots that have more ego than talent and crap talk about folks behind their backs because they're largely suffering from self-esteem problems. And having a more elite group validate your identity (BSDi's commercial systems division) makes that crap talking from those folks look pretty pathetic.
This (FreeBSD's Java) group has been largely free of that stuff. Thank You. ;-)
It's going to be a difficult next few days. I've been given a job offer at WindRiver and I have a few days to think about things (with serious problems with understanding of my role here that I have never had with the normal BSDi crew) before I decide about joining them.
All of this is pretty upsetting. You can't help but wonder if you're ever going to see these coworkers again, which have largely been something like extended family with identical dreams regardless of engineering seniority. I've been on a senior engineering track with the JVM being my first "teething" project and everybody so far has been extremely supportive about my growth/career path with an appreciation of what I've done so far. It's going to be difficult replicating this implicit understanding in what I expect will happen in a new corporate environment.
I'll try and keep in touch with the folks about this matter over the next few days.
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