77 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-stableRe: Releases| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Hays, Sam | Apr 9, 2001 6:32 am | |
| James Raftery | Apr 9, 2001 6:45 am | |
| Steve Tremblett | Apr 9, 2001 6:57 am | |
| Rasputin | Apr 9, 2001 7:47 am | |
| Matthew Emmerton | Apr 9, 2001 8:06 am | |
| Christopher Schulte | Apr 9, 2001 8:26 am | |
| Rasputin | Apr 9, 2001 8:28 am | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 9, 2001 8:45 am | |
| Christopher Schulte | Apr 9, 2001 9:23 am | |
| Jordan Hubbard | Apr 9, 2001 10:25 am | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 9, 2001 10:29 am | |
| Markus Holmberg | Apr 9, 2001 10:35 am | |
| Michael R. Rudel | Apr 9, 2001 10:37 am | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 9, 2001 10:38 am | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 9, 2001 10:49 am | |
| Jordan Hubbard | Apr 9, 2001 10:52 am | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 9, 2001 10:56 am | |
| David A. Koran | Apr 9, 2001 11:15 am | |
| Jordan Hubbard | Apr 9, 2001 11:15 am | |
| Przemyslaw Brojewski | Apr 9, 2001 11:15 am | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 9, 2001 11:31 am | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 9, 2001 11:36 am | |
| Przemyslaw Brojewski | Apr 9, 2001 11:58 am | |
| Rodney W. Grimes | Apr 9, 2001 12:10 pm | |
| Ken Bolingbroke | Apr 9, 2001 12:13 pm | |
| Kal Torak | Apr 9, 2001 12:34 pm | |
| Matthew Emmerton | Apr 9, 2001 12:54 pm | |
| Jeffrey J. Mountin | Apr 9, 2001 12:54 pm | |
| Scott Dodson | Apr 9, 2001 1:15 pm | |
| Jeff Love | Apr 9, 2001 1:28 pm | |
| David Kelly | Apr 9, 2001 1:42 pm | |
| Peter Radcliffe | Apr 9, 2001 1:43 pm | |
| Ben Loyall | Apr 9, 2001 2:07 pm | |
| James Penick | Apr 9, 2001 2:08 pm | |
| Juha Saarinen | Apr 9, 2001 2:20 pm | |
| Mike Meyer | Apr 9, 2001 3:54 pm | |
| Bob K | Apr 9, 2001 4:22 pm | |
| Conrad Sabatier | Apr 9, 2001 5:49 pm | |
| Christopher K Davis | Apr 9, 2001 5:54 pm | |
| Matthew Emmerton | Apr 9, 2001 7:03 pm | |
| Donn Miller | Apr 9, 2001 7:12 pm | |
| Jeffrey J. Mountin | Apr 9, 2001 10:53 pm |  .Other |
| Nik Clayton | Apr 10, 2001 4:06 am | |
| Nik Clayton | Apr 10, 2001 4:12 am | |
| Nik Clayton | Apr 10, 2001 4:19 am | |
| Mike Meyer | Apr 10, 2001 5:51 am | |
| Steve Tremblett | Apr 10, 2001 6:36 am | |
| Graywane | Apr 10, 2001 6:53 am | |
| Michael Nottebrock | Apr 10, 2001 8:32 am | |
| Rodney W. Grimes | Apr 10, 2001 8:34 am | |
| Jordan Hubbard | Apr 10, 2001 8:41 am | |
| Gerhard Sittig | Apr 10, 2001 9:51 am | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 10, 2001 12:33 pm | |
| Rodney W. Grimes | Apr 10, 2001 1:52 pm | |
| Joe Abley | Apr 10, 2001 2:28 pm | |
| Mike Meyer | Apr 10, 2001 2:46 pm | |
| David O'Brien | Apr 10, 2001 2:47 pm | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 10, 2001 2:54 pm | |
| David O'Brien | Apr 10, 2001 2:54 pm | |
| Mike Meyer | Apr 10, 2001 2:55 pm | |
| David O'Brien | Apr 10, 2001 2:56 pm | |
| Juha Saarinen | Apr 10, 2001 3:28 pm | |
| Matthew Emmerton | Apr 10, 2001 5:28 pm | |
| Dima Dorfman | Apr 10, 2001 9:30 pm | |
| Peter Jeremy | Apr 10, 2001 10:30 pm | |
| Rodney W. Grimes | Apr 10, 2001 10:48 pm | |
| Steve O'Hara-Smith | Apr 10, 2001 11:00 pm | |
| Oliver Fromme | Apr 11, 2001 6:45 am | |
| David O'Brien | Apr 11, 2001 10:14 am | |
| jonathan michaels | Apr 11, 2001 12:26 pm | |
| Oliver Fromme | Apr 11, 2001 12:48 pm | |
| Pete French | Apr 11, 2001 12:58 pm | |
| Michael Butler | Apr 11, 2001 1:13 pm | |
| jonathan michaels | Apr 11, 2001 1:20 pm | |
| Nik Clayton | Apr 11, 2001 2:51 pm | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 11, 2001 3:19 pm | |
| Nik Clayton | Apr 12, 2001 12:57 am |
| Subject: | Re: Releases | |
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| From: | Nik Clayton (ni...@freebsd.org) | |
| Date: | Apr 10, 2001 4:06:39 am | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-stable | |
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 05:29:43AM +1200, Dan Langille wrote:
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Christopher Schulte wrote:
At 03:45 AM 4/10/2001 +1200, Dan Langille wrote:
Give meaningful and widely used names to things which people are familiar with.
-CURRENT fits all those requirements.
In this case, the familiarity is reduced to those familiar with the project. Witness the frequency with which the confusion arises.
It's question five in the FAQ.
http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/preface.html#CURRENT
The first para says "only of interest to developers working on the system and die-hard hobbyists".
The second para says
If you are not familiar with the operating system or are not capable of identifying the difference between a real problem and a temporary problem, you should not use FreeBSD-CURRENT. This branch sometimes evolves quite quickly and can be un-buildable for a number of days at a time. People that use FreeBSD-CURRENT are expected to be able to analyze any problems and only report them if they are deemed to be mistakes rather than ``glitches''. Questions such as ``make world produces some error about groups'' on the -CURRENT mailing list are sometimes treated with contempt.
I don't see any way in which someone could start running -current without seeing that warning, or the equivalent warnings in the Handbook.
Short of making -current refuse to build without a magic cookie in /etc/make.conf, and a webpage that contains that cookie along with this dire warning, I don't see how we can make it more obvious to people that they shouldn't be running -current if they don't know what they're doing.
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