168 messages in net.php.lists.internalsRe: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4?
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Subject:Re: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4?Actions...
From:Rasmus Lerdorf (ras@lerdorf.com)
Date:Jul 6, 2007 8:07:06 am
List:net.php.lists.internals

Derick Rethans wrote:

Ladies, Gentlemen, Kings and Princesses,

With the nice PHP 5 / PHP 6 unicode semantics thread under way I am trying to gauge what people feel about dropping support for PHP 4 at the end of this year. That does not mean that we will not fix security issues, we have to as the install base is too large, but that would be the only thing that would warrant a new release. I already sort of mentioned this on april 1st, but I think we should come with a slightly more official statement. Your votes please (only -1 and +1 are allowed)!

I'm breaking your vote only rule. I don't really understand what dropping support means if we will still release security fixes. That's the mode we have been in for at least a year, so what would change at the end of the year?

Dropping support to me means PHP 4 becomes like PHP 3. No new releases for any reason, and I don't think we can realistically do that yet. Saying we are dropping support and then continuing on with the status quo seems odd to me.

-Rasmus