| From | Sent On | Attachments |
|---|---|---|
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 15, 2009 8:52 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 16, 2009 1:24 am | |
| ydeg...@free.fr | Feb 16, 2009 8:32 am | |
| Loic Kessous | Feb 16, 2009 9:39 am | |
| cyrille henry | Feb 16, 2009 9:52 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 16, 2009 9:57 am | |
| ydeg...@free.fr | Feb 16, 2009 10:07 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 16, 2009 11:40 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 16, 2009 11:59 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 16, 2009 12:01 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 16, 2009 1:28 pm | |
| Matt Barber | Feb 16, 2009 1:32 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 16, 2009 1:45 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 16, 2009 1:57 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 16, 2009 2:04 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 16, 2009 2:52 pm | |
| ydeg...@free.fr | Feb 16, 2009 7:48 pm | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 16, 2009 8:38 pm | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 16, 2009 9:03 pm | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 16, 2009 9:04 pm | |
| Matt Barber | Feb 16, 2009 9:36 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 16, 2009 10:10 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 16, 2009 10:24 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 16, 2009 10:29 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 16, 2009 11:20 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 16, 2009 11:25 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 16, 2009 11:28 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 16, 2009 11:28 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 16, 2009 11:36 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 17, 2009 12:36 am | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 17, 2009 12:44 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 17, 2009 1:06 am | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 17, 2009 1:11 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 17, 2009 1:47 am | |
| Loic Kessous | Feb 17, 2009 1:48 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 17, 2009 1:52 am | |
| marius schebella | Feb 17, 2009 2:24 am | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 17, 2009 4:27 am | |
| dmotd | Feb 17, 2009 8:14 am | |
| Matt Barber | Feb 17, 2009 8:17 am | |
| Matt Barber | Feb 17, 2009 9:01 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 17, 2009 10:31 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 17, 2009 10:33 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 17, 2009 10:37 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 17, 2009 10:42 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 17, 2009 10:48 am | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 17, 2009 10:59 am | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 17, 2009 11:08 am | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 17, 2009 11:13 am | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 17, 2009 12:00 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 17, 2009 12:05 pm | |
| Steffen Juul | Feb 17, 2009 12:17 pm | |
| Steffen Juul | Feb 17, 2009 12:19 pm | |
| Steffen Juul | Feb 17, 2009 12:25 pm | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 17, 2009 12:59 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Feb 17, 2009 1:02 pm | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Feb 17, 2009 1:19 pm | |
| marius schebella | Feb 17, 2009 2:29 pm | |
| marius schebella | Feb 17, 2009 2:53 pm | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 18, 2009 12:20 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 18, 2009 12:29 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 18, 2009 12:38 am | |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 18, 2009 1:49 am | .pd, .png |
| Frank Barknecht | Feb 18, 2009 1:52 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 18, 2009 2:09 am | |
| Luke Iannini | Feb 18, 2009 2:10 am | |
| Martin Peach | Feb 18, 2009 5:37 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 18, 2009 6:00 am | |
| Martin Peach | Feb 18, 2009 6:09 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 18, 2009 6:21 am | |
| Andy Farnell | Feb 18, 2009 7:02 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 18, 2009 9:00 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 18, 2009 9:01 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 18, 2009 9:35 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 18, 2009 9:39 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Feb 18, 2009 9:59 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 18, 2009 10:28 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Feb 18, 2009 10:30 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Feb 18, 2009 10:42 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Feb 18, 2009 10:55 am | |
| Andy Farnell | Feb 18, 2009 10:56 am | |
| Andy Farnell | Feb 18, 2009 10:58 am | |
| cyrille henry | Feb 18, 2009 11:01 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 18, 2009 11:19 am | |
| cyrille henry | Feb 18, 2009 11:28 am | |
| cyrille henry | Feb 18, 2009 11:35 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Feb 18, 2009 11:57 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 18, 2009 12:06 pm | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Feb 18, 2009 12:07 pm | |
| Matt Barber | Feb 18, 2009 12:17 pm | |
| Martin Peach | Feb 18, 2009 1:39 pm | |
| 70 later messages | ||
| Subject: | Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs] | |
|---|---|---|
| From: | Matt Barber (brbr...@gmail.com) | |
| Date: | Feb 17, 2009 9:01:30 am | |
| List: | at.iem.pd-dev | |
I think, the smartest thing would be to use the builtin pow~, but reverse the *connections* made to it. Because that's what I'd have to do manually now after importing a Max patch with cyclone.
An alternative would be to rename the pow~ in cyclone to something like [max_pow~] or [Pow~] and use that instead when importing.
I suppose the connection-mangling is not trivial to write and as only this one object is affected, it may be easier to just do it manually when needed. The feature, that Pd now reports overwritten classes is very useful for spotting such differences.
This is now two separate but related issues:
1) Importing max/MSP into Pd + cyclone
2) Maintaining backwards compatibility for Pd patches written in Pd + cyclone
The differences are not trivial. If it were just importing max files, then the problem is now in the translator, and the obvious solutions in my opinion are the ones you just mentioned.
But that would break files that were patched in earlier versions of Pd+cyclone in the first place. In this case, I think that [pow~] should throw a warning for a while. And because Pd has a "find" feature it will not be difficult to find instances of pow~ and change the connections, or to make a little abstraction with crossed inlet~s called max_pow~ or whatever you like and then find and replace. Cyclone could even come with another utility to do this automatically -- anyway I think backward-compatibility is the lib's responsibility, not Pd's.
Matt
_______________________________________________ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev






.pd, .png