atom feed51 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-newbiesRe: Newbie tip
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Darren WiebeMay 11, 1999 9:50 am 
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Dan LangilleMay 11, 1999 2:01 pm 
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G. Adam StanislavMay 11, 1999 3:46 pm 
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Sue BlakeMay 12, 1999 8:42 pm 
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G. Adam StanislavMay 13, 1999 8:11 am 
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G. Adam StanislavMay 13, 1999 4:45 pm 
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Eric HodelMay 13, 1999 8:02 pm 
Alex KapranoffMay 14, 1999 12:34 am 
G. Adam StanislavMay 14, 1999 6:41 am 
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Sue BlakeMay 14, 1999 5:30 pm 
Alex KapranoffMay 15, 1999 1:21 am 
G. Adam StanislavMay 15, 1999 9:04 am 
G. Adam StanislavMay 15, 1999 9:09 am 
Tim VanderhoekMay 15, 1999 2:18 pm 
Alex KapranoffMay 16, 1999 12:42 am 
G. Adam StanislavMay 16, 1999 7:20 am 
Adam SzilveszterMay 16, 1999 7:50 am 
G. Adam StanislavMay 16, 1999 11:45 am 
Adam SzilveszterMay 16, 1999 1:00 pm 
G. Adam StanislavMay 16, 1999 3:03 pm 
Adam SzilveszterMay 16, 1999 11:19 pm 
Takeshi OtsukiMay 16, 1999 11:19 pm 
Jukka SimilaMay 17, 1999 1:25 am 
Jukka SimilaMay 17, 1999 9:28 am 
Adam SzilveszterMay 17, 1999 9:56 am 
unkn...@riverstyx.netMay 17, 1999 1:07 pm 
David WolfskillMay 17, 1999 3:35 pm 
G. Adam StanislavMay 17, 1999 3:43 pm 
Bill SwingleMay 17, 1999 4:35 pm 
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Sue BlakeMay 17, 1999 4:40 pm 
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Crist J. ClarkMay 17, 1999 6:52 pm 
Laurence BerlandMay 17, 1999 7:42 pm 
Alex KapranoffMay 17, 1999 9:15 pm 
Subject:Re: Newbie tip
From:Jukka Simila (sju@saunalahti.fi)
Date:May 17, 1999 9:28:33 am
List:org.freebsd.freebsd-newbies

On 17-May-99 Adam Szilveszter wrote:

[snip]

Using "su" for logging as root is a good way to do things, but I think there's a better way: program from ports called 'sudo' It allows normal users to run programs as root with their own password, like: 'sudo reboot' would prompt for user's password and boot the machine.

hmmmmm.... then what's the point? I would be very careful about configuring for sudo because it's inherently dangerous to give users this much control... I'm not being paranoid but I have even disabled Ctrl-Alt-Del because I do not want people to be able to restart my machine when I am not there. After all, it is not Windows that you have to restart after doing any config work (or moving the mouse, sometimes:-)))

You don't even have to move the mouse, take two identical mouses and boot with another mouse installed, then switch it to the another, you have to reboot before win95 detects the new mouse.

But: If you have a computer that can't be power-on for 24h / day, say, a computer used mainly for text-editing (that old 486 :), wouldn't it be nicer to give users a possibility to shut it down with their own password, rather than delivering root's password to everyone, or recommending microsoft-style shutdown "just switch the power off, it's all right then" :)

Of course, better example than "sudo reboot" would have been "sudo halt" which would do the obvious.

but must add that if I had many users here (only have myself this far on this machine) then I would take care to give them the latest user software in things like Netscape and be responsive to what they ask me to do. That's a prerequisite in maintaining tight system security and manageability. You cannot do it yourself, user, but ask me and I will be in a minute.

"You cannot shut down the computer yourself, but just ask me and I will be there in a minute. Oh, I forgot, I won't be home until tomorrow.. Would you like to become a sysadmin?" :)

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