atom feed47 messages in org.xml.lists.xml-devRe: [xml-dev] Ted Nelson's "XML is Evil"
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Subject:Re: [xml-dev] Ted Nelson's "XML is Evil"
From:Rick Marshall (rj@zenucom.com)
Date:Sep 28, 2004 4:04:14 pm
List:org.xml.lists.xml-dev

Michael Kay wrote:

Not to say it's a bad archive format, just to say that I don't see why it stands the test of long term usability necessarily better than any other format.

Mainly because of design goals 4 and 6, which few other candidate formats have either stated, or achieved:

4: it shall be easy to write programs which process XML documents

6: XML documents should be human legible and reasonably clear

These two goals (and XML's success in achieving them) enable the data to outlive the current generation of software used to process it.

and they have to be stored on a medium that is long term accessible. i have lots of stuff on floppy disks, tapes, etc that, while archived, is for intents and purposes inaccessible without a trip to the computer museum. the format is only part of the issue.

for all their faults stone, metal, paper, vinyl, etc have fanastic long term archive properties.

Admittedly, they do require the designers of the particular vocabulary to share the same philosophy.

Michael Kay http://www.saxonica.com/

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