39 messages in net.sourceforge.lists.courier-maildrop[maildropl] Re: Maildrop EX_TEMPFAIL
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Subject:[maildropl] Re: Maildrop EX_TEMPFAILActions...
From:Sam Varshavchik (mrs@courier-mta.com)
Date:Jul 8, 2002 6:51:40 pm
List:net.sourceforge.lists.courier-maildrop

Ben Rosengart writes:

On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 09:28:32PM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Ben Rosengart writes:

Properly designed MTAs do not accept mail for delivery to nonexistent mailboxes in the first place, and the MDA never sees invalid recipients.

Do you have a reference for this, or is it just your own idea of proper design? People sometimes choose not to expose user lists to the MTA for security reasons.

Exactly what kind of a "security reason" would involve turning an MTA into a proxy mailbomb source?

Isolating potentially-sensitive information from the network.

And how much of a benefit would an extra few seconds of CPU time provide (instead of an outright refusal, just collect a nice bounce a few packets later), especially at the expense of compromising the security of your relay to the point that it can now be used as a proxy mailbomb source?

Besides, I'm fairly confident that once a mail relay with such a configuration is used to launch a few hefty p0rn mailbombs @fbi.gov, the owner of the relay would reevaluate the benefit of supposedly hiding such "potentially-sensitive" information.

Why don't you ask Wietse Venema why he supports this type of configuration in Postfix? (In fact, I believe it's the default.) I'm sure he can answer better than I can.

Apparently he forgot that security through obscurity doesn't work.