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Subject:Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again
From:Stefan Marr (ph@stefan-marr.de)
Date:May 9, 2011 12:33:27 pm
List:net.php.lists.internals

Hi:

On 09 May 2011, at 19:25, guil@gmail.com wrote:

Are you sure? Please take a look at every topic defined on wiki page. Is there ANY topic to be discussed that came from userland? If you say yes, please point me to the thread. What I clearly see there is that every feature defined there came from users with php-src karma. Now I re-ask you, are you really sure it's only a small group that want something or do you now confirm that only php-src users have relevance on features request?

Just for the sake of argument, a single counter-example can prove you wrong.

And that counter-example is traits. I implemented the traits long before I got actual karma, and why do we have
traits in trunk now? Because I kept arguing that they are useful, and that I as a user want them. Others liked the idea, and eventually I got the karma to push the code into the
official repository.

First it was developed completely outside of PHP and without asking anyone from
internals, just because I wanted it...

That is how open source works.

Best regards Stefan

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