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Subject:Re: [PD] [pd REFERENCE] format [was: Re: Pd META: Author/Help Patch Authors]
From:Jonathan Wilkes (janc@yahoo.com)
Date:Sep 5, 2009 6:06:16 pm
List:at.iem.pd-list

--- On Sun, 9/6/09, Mathieu Bouchard <mat@artengine.ca> wrote:

From: Mathieu Bouchard <mat@artengine.ca> Subject: Re: [PD] [pd REFERENCE] format [was: Re: Pd META: Author/Help Patch
Authors] To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <janc@yahoo.com> Cc: "Frank Barknecht" <fb@footils.org>, pd-l@iem.at, "João Pais"
<jmmm@googlemail.com> Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 1:34 AM On Sat, 5 Sep 2009, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

I assume your talking about the HELP_PATCH_AUTHOR field, and not AUTHOR.  (But maybe there are better names for

these.)

Yes, I confused the two with my example, but let's say that the authorship of one object-class is "Johannes wrote the original version, Martin added a TCP transport module" or "Paquette wrote the whole abstraction, but we'd like to thank the XYZ institute for encumbering it with a patent". There are numerous things that one may want to put in an AUTHOR field in the real world. It's not like a university lab, where you just have to write the name of your advisor in that field and not think twice (except if you are unlucky enough to have several advisors at once).

I don't understand your last point, as far as parsing

in Pd is concerned. If you have the tag "frequency_modulation," how is it that the user can search for "fm" and get appropriate results?

They can't. Why should they?

I've been assuming that one of the aims of tags (i.e., keywords) is that there would be a search window in the browser so you can search for relevant help patches/tutorial patches/ etc. Or maybe an actual patch, since Hans has said that the keywords should be "parsable in pd." There are already some categories from which simple, standard keywords may be used, but for some terms like "frequency modulation" there's the aforementioned problem of the space between the words. Given that, frequency_modulation is certainly one solution, and users can get used to using underscores when searching, but why not also include "fm" and "modulation" in case the user happens to type that (which would be completely reasonable)?

What's a tag?

A keyword.

Tell me what's a tag and what's the point of having tags.

I saw your nick in the irc discussion of the PDDP, didn't you actually take part in some of these decisions? Anyhow, here's a link to the specification:

http://puredata.info/dev/pddp/SpecificationForHelpPatchSearching

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