|Edison Su||Oct 17, 2012 11:25 am|
|Kelcey Damage (BBITS)||Oct 17, 2012 11:27 am|
|Frank Zhang||Oct 17, 2012 11:35 am|
|Kelcey Damage (BBITS)||Oct 17, 2012 11:37 am|
|Edison Su||Oct 17, 2012 11:37 am|
|Kelcey Damage (BBITS)||Oct 17, 2012 11:39 am|
|David Nalley||Oct 17, 2012 11:40 am|
|Frank Zhang||Oct 17, 2012 11:47 am|
|David Nalley||Oct 17, 2012 11:51 am|
|Sudha Ponnaganti||Oct 17, 2012 11:53 am|
|Sudha Ponnaganti||Oct 17, 2012 12:20 pm|
|Will Chan||Oct 17, 2012 1:55 pm|
|Kristoffer Sheather - Cloud Central||Oct 17, 2012 2:40 pm|
|Outback Dingo||Oct 17, 2012 2:42 pm|
|Caleb Call||Oct 17, 2012 3:01 pm|
|Kelcey Damage (BBITS)||Oct 17, 2012 3:06 pm|
|Chiradeep Vittal||Oct 17, 2012 4:50 pm|
|David Nalley||Oct 17, 2012 4:54 pm|
|Edison Su||Oct 17, 2012 4:55 pm|
|Chiradeep Vittal||Oct 17, 2012 4:58 pm|
|Frank Zhang||Oct 17, 2012 6:59 pm|
|Joe Brockmeier||Oct 17, 2012 7:30 pm|
|Chip Childers||Oct 18, 2012 7:11 am|
|Will Chan||Oct 18, 2012 10:01 am|
|John Kinsella||Oct 18, 2012 10:04 am|
|Jessica Tomechak||Oct 18, 2012 10:05 am|
|Will Chan||Oct 18, 2012 10:29 am|
|Kevin Kluge||Oct 18, 2012 11:10 am|
|Joe Brockmeier||Oct 18, 2012 12:36 pm|
|David Nalley||Oct 18, 2012 12:47 pm|
|Marcus Sorensen||Oct 18, 2012 12:53 pm|
|Edison Su||Oct 18, 2012 1:53 pm|
|Joe Brockmeier||Oct 18, 2012 2:15 pm|
|Edison Su||Oct 18, 2012 2:59 pm|
|Chip Childers||Oct 18, 2012 3:04 pm|
|Joe Brockmeier||Oct 18, 2012 4:06 pm|
|Caleb Call||Oct 18, 2012 4:55 pm|
|Sudha Ponnaganti||Oct 18, 2012 5:43 pm|
|Subject:||Re: Drop OVM in 4.0?|
|From:||John Kinsella (jl...@stratosec.co)|
|Date:||Oct 18, 2012 10:04:03 am|
Do we have any idea how many CS users use OVM?
I suspect I know the answer to that…so, do we want to consider adding (optional)
code in the future to phone home with some usage stats?
On Oct 18, 2012, at 10:01 AM, Will Chan <will...@citrix.com> wrote:
It will take > week to get the existing OVM support to work again. The reason
being CloudPlatform doesn't have this working in our recent releases since
Acton. Adding support for the latest OVM will take even longer.
I would vote to have OVM be fixed in a later 4.0.x release.
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 04:50:41PM -0700, Chiradeep Vittal wrote:
+1 on fixing in a 4.0.x. We need to make some tough decisions if we want "time based releases". We already dropped AutoScale and Brocade even though they were essentially code-complete for this reason. This is an issue that is of uncertain size (weeks at least) to fix. There is just too much uncertainty. Also it seems that folks want the latest version of OVM anyway, which would not be helped by fixing this in 4.0
We do need to make tough decisions for time-based releases, but we're not quite there yet.
IIRC one of the criteria for 4.0.0-incubating is that we'd support upgrades from prior releases of CloudStack and AutoScale and Brocade were not in those releases - OVM was.
That certainly was the case, but we might need to rethink that assumption. There are really 2 issues: supporting the latest version of OVM and / or fixing the previous OVM support.
I understand the point about supporting the latest OVM version being "at least > 1 week". I haven't seen any answer to "fixing" the issues for the previously supported OVM version. Does anyone have a good handle on that effort? If it's equal or similar to making it work on the latest OVM, then perhaps we are talking about the same thing... If they are significantly different efforts, then we have to make a different decision.
It might be easier for folks to make a decision if we had a clear timeline for a 4.0.x release with OVM support and some idea who's going to be picking that up. (e.g., something like "Edison will be working on this feature and we're expecting it to be in master within two weeks of shipping 4.0.0-incubating).
Or at least a reasonable estimate for the different versions of "fixing" this problem (per my question above).
Holding the release up for an additional week (or longer) is not an attractive option, but neither is letting down a whole set of users who depend on OVM.
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